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No Agenda Episode 1646 - "FLOW""FLOW"Executive Producers:AnonymousDr Sir Rev Joseph James, the 33rdTowers Comicsaimee byrneAssociate Executive Producers:Francisco ScaramangaLeora CoronelL...inda LupatkinBecome a member of the 1647 Club, support the show hereBoost us with with Podcasting 2.0 Certified apps: Podverse - Podfriend - Breez - Sphinx - Podstation - Curiocaster - FountainTitle Changesspartenburg > Baron spartanburgKnights & DamesBrandon Jansen > Dr Sir Rev Joseph James, the 33rdArt By: Tante Neel - tante_neel@getalby.comEnd of Show Mixes: Proj J Jones - Stephan Jacobsen - Lee O LaPukeEngineering, Stream Management & WizardryMark van Dijk - Systems MasterRyan Bemrose - Program DirectorBack Office Jae DvorakChapters: Dreb ScottClip Custodian: Neal JonesClip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave AckermanNEW: and soon on Netflix: Animated No AgendaSign Up for the newsletterNo Agenda PeerageShowNotes Archive of links and Assets (clips etc) 1646.noagendanotes.comDirectory Archive of Shownotes (includes all audio and video assets used) archive.noagendanotes.comRSS Podcast FeedFull Summaries in PDFNo Agenda Lite in opus formatLast Modified 03/28/2024 16:57:57This page created with the FreedomControllerLast Modified 03/28/2024 16:57:57 by Freedom Controller   There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.

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No Agenda Episode 1646 - "FLOW""FLOW"Executive Producers:AnonymousDr Sir Rev Joseph James, the 33rdTowers Comicsaimee byrneAssociate Executive Producers:Francisco ScaramangaLeora CoronelL...inda LupatkinBecome a member of the 1647 Club, support the show hereBoost us with with Podcasting 2.0 Certified apps: Podverse - Podfriend - Breez - Sphinx - Podstation - Curiocaster - FountainTitle Changesspartenburg > Baron spartanburgKnights & DamesBrandon Jansen > Dr Sir Rev Joseph James, the 33rdArt By: Tante Neel - tante_neel@getalby.comEnd of Show Mixes: Proj J Jones - Stephan Jacobsen - Lee O LaPukeEngineering, Stream Management & WizardryMark van Dijk - Systems MasterRyan Bemrose - Program DirectorBack Office Jae DvorakChapters: Dreb ScottClip Custodian: Neal JonesClip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave AckermanNEW: and soon on Netflix: Animated No AgendaSign Up for the newsletterNo Agenda PeerageShowNotes Archive of links and Assets (clips etc) 1646.noagendanotes.comDirectory Archive of Shownotes (includes all audio and video assets used) archive.noagendanotes.comRSS Podcast FeedFull Summaries in PDFNo Agenda Lite in opus formatLast Modified 03/28/2024 16:57:57This page created with the FreedomControllerLast Modified 03/28/2024 16:57:57 by Freedom Controller  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Outstanding product! Number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we want to remind you that weather is not climate unless it is. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. That's right. Beautiful day here in Hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas. It's beautiful. It's beautiful.

Starting point is 00:00:40 We had a couple of colds. It's nice out here, too. It's supposed to be raining. Oh, sorry to hear that. What are the algos telling you to be worried about today everybody please check yourself check your amygdala make sure you're worried about all the right things hey before we even get started i want to say you know tina's on her way to florida so last she actually left yesterday so i had a chance to watch the movie produced by dana brunetti no agenda executive producer gran turismo oh yeah wow i have seen a lot of race movies

Starting point is 00:01:17 i would say this is the best one it should i agree It should receive an Oscar for something. Well, too late. No, I know. And I also... I have to say, I got to see it on IMAX, so you can imagine. Oh, I bet that was... I mean, everyone had warned me it starts a little slow. A little slow. And Grant did a little bit for a second.

Starting point is 00:01:40 I'm like, ah. Yeah, it does start a little slow. But it speeds up like a car yeah yeah it was so good and i loved the casting of jan's mom jerry halliwell gary halliwell jerry jerry halliwell spice girl yeah i thought that was great it was great casting to put her in. Because that means that even you and I can get into his movies. Yeah, right.

Starting point is 00:02:12 If you'll put a Spice Girl in your racing movie, come on. We can get in there. And congratulations to Ashlyn Speed. Number 32, Noah Generator. She's racing F4. She's moved up. No sooner have we talked about her,

Starting point is 00:02:29 have we helped her career, have we put her on the podium, then she goes to Formula 4. This is great. I'm telling you, F1. F1 for the win. Let's see. Well, they knocked the bridge down.

Starting point is 00:02:47 I love watching that bridge go down over and over. Oh, man. It's the damnedest thing. There's a lot of speculation, a lot of information, a lot of things we do know, we don't know. Of course...

Starting point is 00:03:00 Well, we know now that the more important thing... Is? Is they've got to change the name of the bridge because Francis Scott Key is a bad guy. He's a racist. The Francis Scott Key Bridge, now a barrier for a key shipping lane. The Port of Baltimore is expected to be closed indefinitely as authorities investigate the collision that caused its collapse and work to clear the wreckage. It's critically important to our economy. Last year, the port processed over 52 million tons of foreign cargo worth some $80 billion.

Starting point is 00:03:34 Each day it's shut down, a $217 million trade loss. And while Baltimore handles just 3% of container volume for the East and Gulf Coasts, it's the top U.S. port for automobile imports and exports. Nearly 850,000 vehicles passed through last year. The port is also crucial for energy exports, shipping some 20 million tons of coal per year, most to India. It's a key lifeline for the local economy as well, accounting for more than 15,000 direct jobs and nearly 140,000 indirect jobs, generating $3.3 billion in personal income. We're looking at not having ships coming in for no one knows how long at this point.

Starting point is 00:04:17 You know, that's going to affect the lives of longshoremen and stevedores and the tugboat crew. Some 40 ships remain stranded in Baltimore Harbor. Automakers like Ford, GM, and Volkswagen say they will be rerouting their shipping to avoid major disruptions. The accident certain to have a massive impact on the regional supply chain and the local economy. Yeah. The fallout was really bad. That was a better, I have a report from, that report, where'd you get that? That was from France 24. It was good, right? Because it had the economic stuff in it.

Starting point is 00:04:56 It had a bunch of good stuff. Listen, here's what NPR did. Let me see. NPR, here we go. Seeming as divers continue their search for missing construction workers following the collapse of a bridge in Baltimore. Investigators are looking at evidence in the case. Apparently out of control container ships smashed into the bridge's support structure early Tuesday morning, causing the massive structure to crash into the water and onto the ship. The bodies of two workers were recovered today. Other workers who were on the bridge at the time are missing and presumed dead. The Biden administration is promising an aggressive effort to reopen the port of Baltimore to shipping traffic and rebuild the structure.

Starting point is 00:05:32 We got on. I know. But just as an aside, I do have a kind of an interesting tidbit clip. OK. Member station WIPR talked to one of their co-workers who said he was scheduled to work on the bridge the next morning he said the men hailed from guatemala honduras el salvador and mexico it's tragic oh yeah they're all a bunch of illegals that we're working on that no but that's why they don't talk about it in fact the uh president of mexico has already complained. Let me see. Lopez Obrador said that insensitive, irresponsible politicians did not understand the contribution of migrants in the U.S.

Starting point is 00:06:15 They found two bodies in a pickup truck. Yeah, that's your high-paying, good union jobs. That's right. Dignity. Yeah, the illegals working on it. Of course. Fixing the potholes. We have boots on the ground.

Starting point is 00:06:32 By the way, stop a second. So I went into, my tire's leaking. Oh, no. And so I had to get a new expensive tire because it wasn't warrantied because it was caused by a pothole. I had pothole damage to my tire. It's going to cost me a lot of money. You need some illegals. I'm sure we can get some.

Starting point is 00:06:57 Let's go to the Home Depot and pick some up and have them fill up your potholes. Boots on the Ground. Have them fill up your potholes. Boots on the ground. From one of our producers, he works for a port company owned by SSA Marine, which controls port operations at the Baltimore Marine Port. This is why we have the best podcast in the universe. We have the best producers in the universe.

Starting point is 00:07:19 Everybody is an expert at something. I'm sure this guy has been sitting around listening to the show forever, thinking, oh, it's great, but I have nothing much to contribute. Then all of a sudden, whoa, and that's when you email us. That's how you're supposed to do it. It was confirmed there were two pilots in control of the vessel. The vessel was leaving the port after being loaded, speed six knots.

Starting point is 00:07:42 After they lost power, they issued a mayday, which allowed emergency traffic closure of the bridge. And I mean, all those videos, it doesn't look like there was a lot of time. So that losing power, there was enough time for the mayday and for them to close the traffic on the bridge. Granted, it was late, but still, I think that could have been much worse. They followed all the emergency procedures, which includes emergency dropping of the anchor. The smoke, this is from internal communications. So take it for what it's worth, of course. The smoke seen is from the emergency generators, which take several minutes to kick in.

Starting point is 00:08:17 They tried to stop the ship, but it was too short of a distance. The cause of the power failure is still unknown, although dirty fuel is a possibility. It seems they lost control of the steering while motor and propeller was still going a collision was inevitable with the vessel this size and this amount of displacement confirmed that people died but you probably have that information thank you very much to our boots on the ground so that's the official word there at the port now it was really odd uh my neighbor out here lara logan she was on the stick right away about this right away calling it a cyber event yes and she was all over banyan Show and Newsmax or News Nation, whatever it is. And now, let me just say. There's two of them.

Starting point is 00:09:09 One is Newsmax and the other one is News Nation. Yeah, there's two different things. Now, I hold my neighbor in high regard. I know who she's married to. I know that she does. Yeah, I know. You're friends. Yeah, we're friends.

Starting point is 00:09:24 She started coming to our church as well, which is interesting. She definitely has intelligence sources. Now, I'm going to play two clips. The first one is from when she has the same story. It's very long, so I tried to get the two concise clips. But the first one is really her sources. two concise clips but the first one is really her sources and although in none of her reporting that i've seen she is she is staking her reputation on this which for someone like laura is a big deal u.s intelligence elements within u.s intelligence have identified this as a cyber attack and the way

Starting point is 00:10:00 that this is done is using a technique which is called spoofing. So there's a lot of conversation, you know, about the speed the ship was going, that calls were made to emergency services or to the harbor master. And, you know, there's a lot of conversation about exactly, you know, all the different variances that happened here. But what they don't want you to talk about, right, because they introduce all these other things so that you will not have a conversation about how this is done. It's a very simple technique, and it's called spoofing in the intelligence community. And basically what you do is you identify what is the GPS signal. We all know this is satellite based, that the ship is using to power its, you know, its GPS and to guide that ship on its course. And you create a more powerful signal. So you overwhelm the signal that they're using.

Starting point is 00:10:52 And what this means is effectively whoever is on that ship piloting it, when that pilot is on board, a complex maneuver like that has to be handled by the harbor pilot. So he's watching his GPS signal and it's telling him that he is on course, that everything is fine. But now he's looking at what he sees and it doesn't look the same as what's on the GPS. And what the harbor pilot and the crew are now looking at is as they're getting closer and closer, they're realizing, wait a minute, we're not in the channel. What we're seeing with our own eyes doesn't map what's on the GPS, but the GPS is telling us we're still on course. And so then they start to panic, right?

Starting point is 00:11:34 And as they realize that they're in a really bad situation, they're now trying, in all likelihood, right, what they're trying to do is everything that they can to stop it. But at a certain point physics takes over the weight of the ship the weight of the cargo the speed of the water the sharpness of the turn there's nothing that you can do at that point so this is uh she stands by this that it was gps spoofing and it was dark of night and it was timed at night so that they would you know just have the there's not a whole bunch of eyes would be on the bridge and seeing what was happening

Starting point is 00:12:10 uh and uh here's a clip from this that was yesterday here's a clip from this morning about her sources i'm talking to people who are on the inside some who are on active duty some who are retired and everyone everyone, literally, from critical infrastructure in Department of Homeland Security to the intelligence agencies, they know there's no other, it's, this is a cyber attack on a critical infrastructure corridor for the United States. This is, you know, for those people who think this is just a river, this is in Baltimore, what does this matter? You don't know anything about what you're talking about. This the I-94 corridor on the eastern seaboard is literally what connects the north and south.

Starting point is 00:12:52 And when I talk about hazardous materials, right, this is a brilliant, well-planned strategic attack on one of the most important supply chains in the United States of America. The only other one is in the western side in California. That's the only one that's busier. And what you have done is you now have shut it down. What do you think about that? Is that bridge really that important? Is it vital for our infrastructure? Apparently it wasn't vital before 1978 when it was built.

Starting point is 00:13:25 I'm going to have to talk to her about two things. One, I've got to talk to her about the right. Right. And also I should tell her not to stand too close to jet engines. I don't want to get adjusted. Kidding. Kidding. I mean, she's staking her reputation on it, which is...

Starting point is 00:13:46 Well, it's an interesting thesis that, you know, you'd have to try to figure out how it could be done to overwhelm. And it would have been reported by more than one. I would think it couldn't be targeted unless they had... I don't know how they could do that, but it's possible, I suppose, to target one. Oh, no, I mean. It's a bit much for me to take. GPS spoofing is very easy. That's super easy.

Starting point is 00:14:16 Is it easy to do it so nobody else notices? Oh, yeah. You just need a transmitter that is just closer to the receiver than blocks out the satellite signal. Absolutely. I like to hear from some experts on this. We have them out. By the way, 1,600 airplanes in the last four days have had GPS issues over the Baltic Sea. I mean, we know this happens. It's the easiest thing to do. There was also a solar flare, which was attributed to this issue.

Starting point is 00:14:47 Oh, I hadn't heard that one. Was there? Yeah, they came out and said, well, the solar flare has been causing trouble. And that makes more sense to me than this. But spoofing is very easy. With GPS, it really is. I mean, you just have to have a signal sending out the skewed data. But it just seems like, well, okay.

Starting point is 00:15:11 And then that doesn't account for the timing of the engine going out. I mean, there's a lot of holes, a lot of holes. But I still don't know if this, because her big claim is that this will take four to five years, that the structure, you have no idea how bad this is because of the cement pylon, that problem. You don't have to build a new bridge. That's likely true. But is it really that crippling? I mean, I know that you won't be able to get your Mercedes-Benz on time. I heard the CEO on CNBC, oh, we'll get your EV Mercedes-Benz to you as soon as possible.

Starting point is 00:15:57 I don't know. That's the thing that only she's talking about. It's much more interesting to me than the GPS spoofing. Is this really that important of a corridor? Well, it's a 3% port. We know that. Right, but she's talking about the bridge itself. It's not the port. It's the bridge.

Starting point is 00:16:15 The bridge, yeah, will take a while to build. Especially since the one that was put up was, I guess, thrown up. That was a piece of crap. I've never seen anything collapse like that. Well... The whole thing looked like a tinker toy going was, I guess, thrown up. That was a piece of crap. I've never seen anything collapse like that. Well. The whole thing looked like a tinker toy going down. Well, if you hit, I mean, hitting that pylon is,

Starting point is 00:16:33 I mean, that's. Yeah, there's a single point of failure to that extreme that was poorly designed, if that's the case. Okay, John C. Dvorak. Jesus, terrible. Structural engineer. I mean, hey, did you see the Twin Towers? I'm just looking at, you don't have to be a chicken to know a bad egg. hey, did you see the Twin Towers? I'm just looking at you.

Starting point is 00:16:45 You don't have to be a chicken to know a bad egg. Hey, did you see the Twin Towers? How about that? Well, I don't think that was legit. This seemed legit. How about Building 7? You're complaining about a bridge? That thing fell down out of sympathy.

Starting point is 00:17:04 So, I don't know the it will unfold but if so no one else is talking about that to me is the most interesting part is it really that bad and man it's like when you get a whole bunch of people calling you from intelligence oh yeah yeah you know is that i mean that that could be q level stuff like oh yeah oh this is this is it man this is it and by the way now that i have you on the phone uh jfk jr is still alive which is a big one pass it on which is which is a big one out here that's a big one. A lot of people talking about that. I find that peculiar that it would be so prevalent in that area.

Starting point is 00:17:55 Oh, it's very interesting. You're living in an area that is loaded with crackpots. I feel right at home. Yeah, well, you should. It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful crackpots. I feel right at home. Yeah, well, you should. It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing. All right, so that was one. I mean, we really just don't have any more. Everybody's seen the video footage.

Starting point is 00:18:16 I can understand where if you hit, it's such a perfect hit. I mean, even if they had just hit the truss of the bridge it would have taken that thing out but it really hit just the the sweet spot which you don't really expect to happen so and and if it is is it more important to me is is it really going to cripple our internal infrastructure that's the i thought you would know more about the I-95 corridor. Seems like something you would know. I know about the I-95 corridor. Yeah. But as far as I'm concerned,

Starting point is 00:18:51 it's back east. I'm a west coast guy. I don't care. Who gives a sh*t? That's the spirit, John. We look to China for our complaining. Well, alright. Since we're talking about china uh this is hasn't really hit the news that hard here in the states but it's big in the uk

Starting point is 00:19:13 yeah it's uh dominating the british papers today stewart in what the daily mail calls and a highly unusual move the u.s and uk uh publicly identified China as a source of a decades-long cyber attack campaign. That campaign targeted, among others, politicians, journalists, institutions in the U.K., the U.S., and New Zealand now says that its parliamentary system was also targeted in 2021. America, the U.S. has announced criminal charges and sanctions against seven hackers who they say live in China. Rishi Sunak, the British prime minister, is now under pressure to do more to fight and to sanction those who carried out these attacks,

Starting point is 00:20:00 particularly as anger is growing over the fact that britain only slapped sanctions on two hackers they belong to a group called advanced persistent threat or apt now to give you an idea of the scale of these attacks what kind of what kind of hacker name is that yeah but if you're sitting down with a bunch of hackers like oh we gotta have a cool name like anon oh yeah advanced persistent threat yeah nailed it bro advanced persistent threat or apt now to give you an idea of the scale of these attacks uh for in one instance uh an attack on the uk electoral commission gave the hackers access to the names and addresses of 40 million people registered to vote. One MP saying Britain turned up to a gunfight with a wooden spoon is in a bid to describe the response of Britain to punishing these hackers. As The Times reports, China is set to be declared a threat to national security.

Starting point is 00:21:02 Sir Ben Rose in the troll room says that APT is what the white hats give to groups who they don't have the name of, and they'll often put a number. So APT 35, advanced. So it's not what they call themselves. It's what we, what our good guys call them. And it sounds to me like an attack on five eyes. Now they threw in New Zealand, the UK, the US, all us all this it's your pivot to indo-china there you go it's there's so much confusing so they've collected names of 40 million people

Starting point is 00:21:35 okay yeah so what it's called facebook what are you talking about no it's called mini Facebook. It's not even close. Mini, mini Facebook. So then I hear about that Beijing is filing a lawsuit with the World Trade Organization against the United States. Yes, this is a good story. The same issue that the European Union had, although I don't think the European Union has filed any suit. any suit they're complaining about the IRA the infrastructure reduction act which gives incentives to U.S. electric vehicle makers and they're saying it's racist it's it's discriminatory and now that's one thing first of all boohoo China that's one. But then Janet Yellen comes on the Andrea Mitchell show and accuses China. And let me finally ask you about a New York Times report, but other reporting that we have done on Elon Musk and his relationship with China. Obviously, Tesla competing now against their cheaper EVs, but he is really dependent on that Chinese market,

Starting point is 00:22:47 very tied in with them. He has huge defense contracts. His satellites are the satellites we rely on for so much of our communication. It isn't a national security problem for, and his rockets, of course. It isn't a national security problem for our government to have so much reliance on this one entrepreneur? Well, look, we take national security very seriously and want to protect our national security.

Starting point is 00:23:21 Our desire is not to shut down economic relations with China. We want to diversify our supply chains, but many American firms operate in China and gain from the ability to sell to China's large market. China obviously sells a lot in the United States, and the competition among our firms is, by and large, a healthy thing. We want to stabilize that relationship, not shut it down, but also we need to make sure that the playing field is level, and we are concerned about chinese subsidies and the impact on our firms so she's saying the chinese are subsidizing their companies well now now now breakman clump which is what we say in the old country that breaks that breaks my clog

Starting point is 00:24:21 oh what a terrible saying. Well, if you had wooden shoes, then you'd understand it. This is odd. So are we going down into... There's something going on. Right now, there is a BYD, which is the company that was... EV cars. Supposedly going to build a mega factory in Mexico. The bloodbath, the bloodbath cars.

Starting point is 00:24:43 The bloodbath company, BYD. Blood, bloodath company byd blood your dream blood your yeah so uh the bloodbath company byd is rolling out this summer a massive campaign to introduce the byd electric vehicle to the united states interesting you can go to their website and you can see the movie about it and they're gonna they're gonna be sponsoring the big World Cup or some soccer game. Well, that's not how you get the Americans interested. No, I know. But they figure the Americans are very slowly turning to soccer. Yes, they're sponsoring UEFA.

Starting point is 00:25:16 Which is idiotic. That is very odd. Why would they do that? But anyway, so we have this coming. And it's supposed to roll out this summer, and we're going to start seeing. We don't see it. What Chinese cars? What's the big threat?

Starting point is 00:25:29 What Chinese car is on the road? Name one. I can't. Yeah, that's what I thought. They're all in Russia. Right. Why do they even bother selling those? They got Russia's market.

Starting point is 00:25:42 They're all in Russia. Be good buying Mercedes. And maybe this whole thing's about you said it yourself they bring down this bridge mercedes can't bring cars here they can't sell them to russia they're screwed maybe this is targeting them whatever the case i like that this idea that okay but they were i thought they were going to put them in mexico what the mercedes no the byd oh no they're going to build them in mexico so they can get cheaper labor and roll them into the country and save a few bucks they're not

Starting point is 00:26:12 building them here because no one's going to let them do that um but they're going to be rolled out this summer but tonight i don't think it'd be the mexican ones because i don't think that factory's done or even started started, for all I know. Anyway, this is all suspicious, and it's like, you know, free trade is supposed to be free trade, and yeah, we subsidize our people, they subsidize their people,

Starting point is 00:26:38 everybody subsidize. The thing is, it's such a joke. All of this, to me, is a joke. We are in perpetual relationship with china they buy our debt and there's nothing we can do about it well no i mean we they buy our debt and then they have dollars and what are you going to do with the dollars i'll go buy some land uh buy some real estate buy san francisco doesn't china own a lot of real estate in san francisco not that i know of i No, I thought they did. Well, that would be a good ploy.

Starting point is 00:27:07 Well, it wouldn't surprise me. That's what I always heard. I never heard this. Ownership. I mean, Chinese. There's a big Chinatown in San Francisco. There's a lot of Chinese in San Francisco. Get rid of them.

Starting point is 00:27:21 Rouse them. Get rid of them. Rouse them. Get rid of them. They've tried to do that before. How and why buyers from China are snatching up Bay Area homes? Bay Area is not San Francisco. Oh, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:27:33 Okay, you're going to be technical about it? This is from 2014. Yeah, I'm going to be technical about it. Yeah, okay. Well, the Bay Area. California. You know, the part you care about. Well, if I was in China china i would be buying i know

Starting point is 00:27:45 my where i live which is on albany hill i call china hill yeah but isn't the whole point that we're just in this we are the customer we buy their stuff they buy our debt it's a circle it goes all it i mean mercedes actually germany had this with Russia, which is gone now. Germany would build Mercedes, sell them to Russia, and Russia supplied all kinds of stuff back to them, including, you know, Deutschmarks. Until we threw them off of Swift. What a bunch of idiots.

Starting point is 00:28:26 Oh, man. Did you... I think I had... I don't know. Is it here? Here it is. Reuters reports now, Swift planning launch of new central bank digital currency platform in 12 months.

Starting point is 00:28:43 You know, you got to wonder. I know which side of the argument you're on. Yeah, of course. I'm totally on the side of that they're going to do this. It's inevitable. Well, I didn't say, I mean, they may do it. It doesn't mean it's going to be a success. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:29:02 Are we going to get rid of cash in our lifetime before you're dead? Yes, before you're dead even. Yes, no. Are we going to get rid of cash in our lifetime before you're dead? Yes. Before you're dead even. Yes. Yes. It's already gone practically for all practical purposes. Yes. Oh, we're definitely going to get rid of cash.

Starting point is 00:29:17 Definitely. Well, that's a huge mistake. But, I mean, the whole point of a digital, a central bank digital currency is to easily be able to inflate and deflate and manage, you know, the money supply. Yeah, to take your money. Yeah. Yes, exactly. To take your money. And you know what? They just got one step closer.

Starting point is 00:29:40 And Texas Slim has been warning about this. We've been talking about it for quite a while. and they finally did it in the omnibus bill. You're going to hear Massey and some rando rancher. Well, you know, the left wants to ban cattle. And before you can ban anything, you need a registry. You need to know where it's at and who owns it. And that's why they want to tag cattle. We've seen it happen in Europe.

Starting point is 00:30:04 Now, on the right, you've got some cronies who stand to make some money from these ear tags. They're the ones who get the $15 million earmark. It doesn't go to USDA. It's going to, quote, stakeholders. That is a code word for private entities are getting a handout. And what they'll do, they'll verticalize the industry with this. The big corporations, you know, you just talked about China. There are four corporations control meat processing

Starting point is 00:30:29 in the United States. One's owned by China, one's owned by Brazil. American ranchers will be working for those organizations if this tracking goes through, because they'll verticalize the industry. Shad, what's your response to this tracking of cattle? Are you concerned as well? Oh, yes, I am. It is the key that opens the door to the end of independent producers across the country. And it is a private property rights issue that we really have to consider here. When we start talking about RFID, EID, and data monitoring of farmers and ranchers and their cattle herd size, we open up the door to what is going on in the European Union. And under the rules of sustainable development, we know that the RFID has led to a land seizure

Starting point is 00:31:19 in the name of climate change. So once we open that door, there's no going back. name of climate change. So once we open that door, there's no going back. And they can come and they can monitor, measure, report, and verify everything that's going on your farm or ranch. And then, maybe down the road, in the name of climate change, they can come and dictate to you the rules of their production, which is subjective from a third-party verification. And it is extremely dangerous to private property rights. This is a liberty taker, not a liberty maker. And this is all part of what Larry Fink from BlackRock calls, you know, he calls it commodity. No, it's like creating an,

Starting point is 00:32:02 I wish I remember what Larry Fink of BlackRock said. Tokenizing every asset. That's what it is, tokenizing. So they want to tokenize the herd. And then you can, of course, you can do all kinds of financial stuff once it's tokenized and you can track it and you put your cow on the blockchain,

Starting point is 00:32:23 on whatever CBDC blockchain there is. And then you have total control. Total control. This is happening. This is really happening. Except, you know, these guys, they should have Texas Slim on. Don't get this Rando guy on. Slim's much better.

Starting point is 00:32:41 Better look, better hat, everything. Much better. So, yeah, everything's going to be digital. And although we keep laughing about climate change, they're all so crazy, it's creeping up on us bit by bit. And then before you know it, sorry, no beef for you because you drove too much.

Starting point is 00:33:03 You don't have an EV. So the thing that didn't get much news coverage by the mainstream, but was on some of the, it was on YouTube and elsewhere, was the big hailstorm in Texas that took out a solar array that's like miles and miles of these panels all busted up by the incoming hail. Gee, who would have ever thought that could happen? Was that even covered in the local news where you are? Yes.

Starting point is 00:33:32 It wasn't covered here. Well, you're California. You don't care about the rest of the nation. Well, there's truth to that. Okay. Here's a solar energy clip I have. Oh, you have a clip about it? uh here's this uh new solar here's the solar energy uh clip i have so you're talking about you have a clip about it oh not about that because i can't i never saw it except on youtube by the

Starting point is 00:33:50 way when when it hails and we've had a couple uh good hail storms uh two things happen one you keep getting emails hey it's roof repair guy here want me to check out your roof and the other thing is you always hear someone some poor sap like oh, my kid parked the car on the street. Didn't think about it. Yeah, I guess the cars get all dinged up. Oh, the windshield's broken. Windshield's broken. Well, if you can break a windshield with a hailstone,

Starting point is 00:34:18 then you can break a solar panel with one. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen toured a factory in Georgia today that will soon start making solar cells for the first time in seven years. NPR's Scott Horsley reports Yellen says federal tax credits helped pave the way for the plant's reopening. The Seneva factory in Norcross, Georgia was one of the first plants in the country to manufacture solar cells when it opened back in 2007. It struggled to compete though with cheaper imports, and the factory was shuttered 10 years later. Now, Soneva's trying again.

Starting point is 00:34:48 Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen credits clean energy tax breaks in the Inflation Reduction Act, which are designed to encourage domestic manufacturing. Thanks to the IRA, investing in clean energy is a good value proposition today and for the future. Yella notes that solar energy accounts for more than half the new power generating capacity added in the U.S. last year. So this is just proof. This is proof that one, was it a trillion dollars, I think, the Inflation Reduction Act?

Starting point is 00:35:18 I think a trillion plus. Yeah, a trillion plus dollars. Proof that it just went to private companies. Make, oh, hey, Janet, send it to us. We'll make some solar panels. Yeah, it trillion plus dollars. Proof that it just went to private companies. Make, oh, I'm going to obey Janet. Send it to us. We'll make some solar panels. Yeah, it'll be great. In other words, they couldn't be profitable making them competing on a...

Starting point is 00:35:33 Exactly. Rethink a level playing field with the Chinese who came in and just blew everybody away. China's right then. They should be suing us. We're no good. Although they're no good either. No, it's just the system's no good. Since we're on climate change, I have a big mystery answered.

Starting point is 00:35:53 Something that we've been talking about on this podcast for, well, probably since its existence. And it came out of the blue all of a sudden from uh the high wire you know the high wire del big tree i'm familiar with it i've never listened to it yeah oh well during covet he had all kinds of great information oh well good for you yeah i think del used to produce uh medical shows on m5m like the doctors i believe he produced that one no good for him yeah so yeah we need people like that yes yes exactly because he can't get a job anywhere else so he had on climate engineering expert jim lee and man he he just laid it all out and explained why we've been seeing all those tic-tac-toe things in the sky

Starting point is 00:36:47 which seems to have increased incredibly in the past do you have a lot of chemtrails in the sky where you are or you've it's nothing nothing ever happened nothing bad in california you know i saw like one uh one trail maybe a week ago no and oh so but you've seen the pictures of people taking pictures of the sky yeah i've seen these crisscross which look i i've been a pilot since 2006 i've never seen it so bad as it is now but you know what this guy has solved the mystery of the chemtrails. The Obama administration, while everybody was having the Trump-Hillary Clinton election, you know, wall-to-wall coverage, everything always happens while nobody's looking right. The Obama administration signed the Federal Alternative Aviation Fuel Emissions Pact with the European Union, China, and the ICAO. This can be summed up in just a couple

Starting point is 00:37:48 words, biofuels for contrail control, which goes back to what Ulrich Schumann was saying, to change the chemical constituents coming out of jet aircraft so that there's less warming, more cooling contrails. So I got in touch with the guy at the FAA who was testing the biofuels. His name is Dr. Rangasai Halthori. He is the head of the FAA's Aviation Climate Change Research Initiative. And I specifically asked him, and i sent him the documentation i said what did ulrich schumann mean by less warming more cooling contrails predictable for operational planning he says we want more contrail induced cirrus clouds by day and none by night. This is intent. I have this signed in writing

Starting point is 00:38:46 directly from the head of the FAA's ACCRI. So if you've ever looked up in the sky and you've seen all those, I'll just call them contrails. They don't evaporate. They eventually spread out and become a cloud cover, cirrus clouds,

Starting point is 00:39:04 which are the flat clouds. And this apparently what this Jim is saying comes from a specific mixture of biofuels that is used in the aviation industry. And it is, in fact, what around contrail forming spaces in the sky. These are called ice supersaturated regions. Basically, Google AI goes back to what Ulrich Schumann had actually created in 2010. He produced something called COSIP, the Contrail Cirrus Prediction Tool. COSIP has evolved to be part of what's called the Next Gen Transportation System in America. That's what makes all the tic-tac-toes in the sky.

Starting point is 00:40:03 Hold on. If it was Google AI, wouldn't those contrails be black no why oh heyo part of what's called the next gen transportation system in america that's what makes all the tic-tac-toes in the sky. It is a supercomputer that routes all the flights, and inside that supercomputer is a subsystem called the Aviation Environment Design Tool, AEDT. In the AEDT, it tells at what altitude to fly, how much fuel to burn, all of these things. And it takes in environmental concerns into how it routes flights. And that brings us right back to the Biden administration with an executive order, which we already knew was coming. And this is it.

Starting point is 00:41:01 What did the Biden administration just can't come out with? A report on solar radiation modification. What three areas of study did they say they want to focus on? Stratospheric aerosol injection. They call it solar radiation modification. And cirrus cloud thinning. So what you have here is a grand conspiracy between the scientists who are trying to as they would put it mitigate global warming impacts from aviation but in reality what

Starting point is 00:41:32 they're doing is they're turning what's been 60 to 80 years worth of pollution into an active geoengineering program i think it makes total sense they've always been doing this and we always knew that one day they'll come on oh no we've got to do this aerosol bill gates hello bill gates we got to do this aerosol stuff because it's for climate change well they've been doing it all along well when i was a kid they were always seeding the clouds in california constantly sure seeding yeah clouds in California constantly. Sure, seeding. Yeah, that's one thing.

Starting point is 00:42:07 Well, it's still a claim. It's still a modification. Yes, yes. But this is, people have been noticing. They've been noticing the crisscrosses in the sky, and here's your answer. And remember NextGen? I was all over NextGen, because that was going to be a whole bunch of things. And remember next gen?

Starting point is 00:42:23 I was all over next gen because that was going to be a whole bunch of things. And while I was looking at the pilotless airplanes and how they were going to decrease separation, what they were really under the hood is they were changing the fuel so that we have more of these clouds that spread out. And it's basically ruining our days. It is. It ruins your day. I didn't see you going there going there but okay it ruins your day you know nice blue skies oh no we can't have that these people are crazy well that's for sure ruining our blue skies um okay i have one more climate change clip then we could move away from that

Starting point is 00:43:06 this is the farmers are protesting once again they're in europe uh they're in the year that the european out of control in europe they're mad and they're going to brussels they're throwing poop everywhere they're starting fires but just so you know the people that they are looking to, the politicians they're looking to, to solve their issues, to help them reduce these ridiculous climate change regulations, they're, oh, let me see, what political bent do you think they have? Could it be far right? Yeah, probably. Count the number of times. For the third time in a few weeks, firecrackers and smoke darken the sky in Brussels' EU quarter.

Starting point is 00:43:53 The concessions given to them by the EU so far have not been enough for these farmers, particularly the youngest among them. Young people have a lot of expenses, so are most in need of fair income. For the moment, they don't have it. This anger could push these young people to move away from the traditional vote of the agricultural elect. It's clear that it was more centre-right or even right-wing.

Starting point is 00:44:17 But here, all the cards are reshuffled, and we don't know who the farmers will turn to. Especially since, for several months in the European Parliament, far-right parties have been moving into traditional territory of the right by casting themselves as the spokespeople for farmers. The embrace of state interventionism has been an ideological evolution for certain far-right groups. Very clearly, in the 80s, we had far-right groups, typically the National Front in France, which were more of a neoliberal trend. But they have evolved their discourse on a set of elements because it's an opportunity to capitalize on societal unease and perhaps further broaden their electoral base. The far-right's other target is the environmental measures of the European Green Deal, which remain at the heart of the debate,

Starting point is 00:45:09 despite already being significantly watered down recently by the EU. There you go. What do we count? Yeah, far right. Far right. The far right. Whatever that means. I think they said farm right. I think it was farm right. Yeah, well, they don't... If you are protesting and you're a farmer,

Starting point is 00:45:24 you're basically a Nazi. That's it. Yeah, that makes nothing but sense. That's the whole idea. What? You want, what? Oh, no, no. You're part of the far right.

Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, not right. No. Not conservative. Although that bastion of freedom there in Berkeley, right where you are, you know, the ones that don't care about the rest of the country. Right, yeah. Are repealing its controversial ban on natural gas appliances. Yeah, they couldn't, there was a little, yeah, nobody was buying into this one.

Starting point is 00:45:58 Yeah, but New York is still all in. Well, they're idiots. Yeah, no more pizza ovens. We actually lured them into the idea. No more matzahs. It's crazy. The UK, though, the Oxfordshire County Council approved plans this week

Starting point is 00:46:17 to lock residents into one of six zones to save the planet from global warming. Yep, this is the uh 15 minute uh neighborhood instead of city neighborhood under the new scheme if residents want to leave their zone i love that you get a way you have to get a visa don't leave your zone citizen if you want to leave your zone they'll need permission yes there it is there's your visa from the council and they will decide who is worthy of freedom i think this is this is a written with some slant here under the new scheme residents will be allowed to leave their zone a maximum of 100 days per year so you have a there's your budget there's

Starting point is 00:46:57 your climate budget 100 days a year don't try to buy anything outside of the zone because they'll know. No, you go Amazon. No, Amazon's behind this. You know that, right? But if you go to, well, I'm sure they're helping. Yeah. But if you go to another zone and get something to eat with your cashless society, they'll know. Every resident has to register their car. and of course their cars will be tracked via cameras around the city it's all coming it's all coming it's it's amazing between that and four years of trump we have to stop after uh you know in uh was it the show was dead 2028 is the end of the no agenda that's right it's the end of the No Agenda show. That's right, it's the end of the show. It just has to end. We can't handle it anymore.

Starting point is 00:47:48 We don't have the bandwidth for it. And then, of course, with war in Ukraine, with terror attacks in Moscow, which now, I think Putin says we're both

Starting point is 00:48:03 right. It was Ukraine with the U.S. and the U.K. So it wasn't just Ukraine. It was Ukraine with the U.S. and the U.K., which, by the way, a lot of people have deconstructed Victoria Nuland's comments at the end of February in Ukraine, in Kiev, and say, oh, yeah, and she was already telegraphing it which i thought was about the taurus missiles which germany didn't give but here's that 38 second clip again where she talks

Starting point is 00:48:33 about some mighty big surprises i have to say that i leave tonight uh more encouraged about the unity and the resolve about 2024 and its absolute strategic importance for Ukraine. I also leave more confident that even as Ukraine strengthens its defenses, strengthens its defenses, Mr. Putin's going to get some nice surprises on the battlefield, and that Ukraine will make some very strong success this year. See, that's where I disagree with the deconstructionist. She says, on the battlefield.

Starting point is 00:49:19 Yes, I agree. I agree with you. So I don't think that was any telegraphing by any means. And there's some very lengthy deconstructions of it. But whatever. We don't think a concert hall outside of Moscow is, quote unquote, on the battlefield. And now ISIS-K is everywhere. Oh, ISIS-K, they're threatening France. They're threatening the Olympics.

Starting point is 00:49:45 So it's always fun. It's always fun to bring back ISIS. Bring back ISIS-K. But anyway. ISIS-K is right. ISIS-K is not really anything they brought back. ISIS-K stems from one specific province in Afghanistan that starts with a K. Yeah, Khorasan.

Starting point is 00:50:05 Just a bunch of disillusioned Taliban guys. The whole thing is ridiculous. It is. It is. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But, you know, it makes everybody worried and shake everybody up. But that doesn't matter at all because all anybody can talk about is Diddy.

Starting point is 00:50:25 Diddy, Diddy, Diddy, Diddy, Diddy. I have a bunch of Diddy clips. And there you are right on cue to disappoint me with a whole bunch of Diddy clips. Yeah, of course, because I, unlike you, do deal with some popular storylines that you reject out of hand. Wait, no. Hold on a second. I have not rejected anything out of hand. I have said that what is happening here is they're washing the cup on the outside.

Starting point is 00:50:52 The inside is where all the wickedness resides. This is, Diddy is just a cover for the true wickedness. That's what I said. Okay, what's the true wickedness? Oh, my God. The lesbian witches who perform

Starting point is 00:51:12 witchcraft every single day in front of our kids. Taylor Swift. Madonna. Rihanna. Well, it's all in the music industry, which is kind of what is brought out by this Diddy thing. I lived with Sean Puffy Combs for a year.

Starting point is 00:51:27 That's the crazy thing. Now, that was L.A. Reid's idea, right? This is what you want me to play? No, but this is good. This is from 2016. Oh, this is Usher. This is Usher. This is Usher complaining about, you know,

Starting point is 00:51:38 when he was a kid, he was taking... So it was, by the way, they also... I don't have all these clips, but Bieber, I guess, was taken in by Diddy to these camps. By the way, it's like not a secret within the music business that Diddy is gay. This is, it's like, oh. Well, in fact, I don't have that clip either. I can just.

Starting point is 00:51:57 Good. But one of the guys, one of the guys that one of the guys who's doing the main, one of the main complainers call and he uses the term virgin hole yeah you're talking about kind of get which kind of i don't know how they got it on fox but they did are you talking about cat williams yeah i think it was who it was now cat williams says the diddy wants to do everyone's you know and he goes on about this he said you just have to say no yeah that's cat williams and you just have to say no and and you know you back up but yes it seems as though in general if diddy even whispers the words virgin and hold to you you need to say no i agree this is very very sound advice very sound advice but yeah you can play this usher clip i lived with sean Puffy Combs for a year. That's the crazy thing.

Starting point is 00:52:45 Now, that was L.A. Reid's idea, right? We're sending you over to something called Puffy Flavor Camp. There you go. You were 13. What were you seeing? I went there to see the lifestyle. Right. And I saw it.

Starting point is 00:52:55 But I don't know if I could indulge and understand what I was even looking at. It was pretty wild. So nobody tried to, you know, some woman didn't come along. I didn't say that. Okay. I didn't say that. Okay. I didn't say that. What I did say is that there were very curious things taking place. Uh-huh.

Starting point is 00:53:10 And I didn't necessarily understand it. Would you ever send your kid to Puffy camp? Hell no. Yeah, so it was actually, just so you understand the genesis, Puffy took Usher under his wing, and Usher was the one who quote-unquote discovered bieber and then he sent bieber off to be with with diddy for two weeks well it's sorted well yes hello oh my there's gambling going on in the music business

Starting point is 00:53:42 what you don't hear very much of is Clive Davis. He's the one who discovered Diddy if we go all the way up the chain. And by the way, if you notice, Diddy is now a rapper. What happened to Music Industry Executive, which is what he really is, because he runs all these labels and sub-labels. And then, of course, course Curry you're not doing the research this is Epstein

Starting point is 00:54:08 okay because yes oh they're blackmailing everybody I still need to see one videotape from Epstein we haven't seen anything they won't show us anything where's the Hillary Clinton video that four cops committed suicide over?

Starting point is 00:54:26 Where's that? You'd think they would get leaked somehow. You'd think. Well, the clips I have are, if I didn't take the mainstream media, I took Jesse Walters. That's not mainstream media? Well, it is, but it's... That's more mainstream than most. media well it is but it's it's it's more mainstream than most well the reason i i i say it's not is because it's like watching a hysterical old lady uh okay jesse walters well by the way this is

Starting point is 00:54:56 it's waters not walters walter walkers waters waters jesse waters is just short of holding clutching not his pearls but you know the where you get to the top of your blouse and you hold it tight against your neck. He sounds like 99% of all podcasts and Rumble and YouTube videos. Yes. And that's what everybody's, is that what your algo brought up for you john diddy no oh okay no i was watching jesse walker show walk walk jesse walkers all right let's get into it shockwaves reverberating through the music industry after federal agents raided the la and miami homes of billionaire hip-hop mogul Sean Diddy Combs.

Starting point is 00:55:46 Homeland Security conducted the armed raid in an alleged sex trafficking operation. TMZ later capturing Diddy pacing around a private Miami airstrip. Diddy wasn't arrested, but his phones were seized. And there's speculation tonight that he's fled the country. We can't confirm it. Just breaking tonight, though, Diddy's attorneys putting out a statement saying, quote, there is no excuse for the excessive show of force and hostility exhibited by authorities. This unprecedented ambush, paired with advanced coordinated media presence,

Starting point is 00:56:19 leads to a premature rush to judgment of Mr. Combs and is nothing more than a witch hunt. We believe the raid was triggered by a litany of lawsuits, including from his own ex, alleging abuse, rape, and sex trafficking. Diddy settled that one, but then, two months ago, his former producer, Rodney Lil' Rod Jones, filed an explosive lawsuit containing disturbingly graphic and

Starting point is 00:56:48 disgusting details that not only implicate diddy but aim straight at the heart of the music industry so uh in all of this interesting that diddy has not been arrested his kids that's weird his kids are living at these houses and let me tell you you want to see some messed up kids look at kids of billionaires um and and but he's right diddy is putting out a statement he's right this is a witch hunt the witches of the music industry taylor swift oh beyonce what you did there oh yeah these these are the evil ones they're the satanists and sam smith we'll just call him a woman for argument's sake who sam smith don't you remember he he he was on the grammys in the devil suit in the cage brought to you by pfizer oh that guy yes

Starting point is 00:57:42 yes these it is a witch hunt in that regard he's correct it's a witch hunt the witches are out to get him to cover up their own evil doings i like your thesis thank you clip two an elaborate racketeering blackmail and sex trafficking scheme that his lawyers compare to jeffrey epstein's now for over a year little Rod had unfettered access to Diddy's world, his homes, his planes, and his parties, where he claims he witnessed mountains of narcotics, illegal firearms, laced drinks,

Starting point is 00:58:16 sex workers, and underage boys and girls. The producer claims he was groped by Diddy, groomed, and forced into humiliating sexual performances. Diddy's chief of staff, Christina Corum, is said to have been the Ghislaine Maxwell to Sean Combs. Oh, there it is. Allegedly ordering her assistants to keep Mr. Combs high off gummies, pills, cocaine, and ecstasy,

Starting point is 00:58:42 and maintaining a steady stream of sex workers for her boss now some of the women brought into diddy's orbit were under the age of 16 that's according to the complaint the lawsuit claims he required the sex workers and underage girls to sign ndas prior to entering his parties and prior to being drugged and sex trafficked at these parties i don't believe this for a second sign this nda all sure both no okay so so far except for the underage part we have drugs and hookers hmm sounds like dc to me i mean okay this is all just salacious gossip, and it's so uninteresting in the world that we live in. When Taylor Swift is performing Witchcraft on stage in front of your seven-year-old, oh, Taylor, the kids are talking in tongues.

Starting point is 00:59:41 Yeah? Yeah. That's true. That is a short clip. Here's the last one now did he call these his freak out parties in attendance there you go for celebrities politicians athletes international dignitaries like british royalty prince harry and music label executives little rod claimed some of the biggest names in the recording industry sponsored these parties with sex workers, drugs, and underage girls. The CEO of Universal Music, Lucian Grange, is named as a defendant.

Starting point is 01:00:14 So is the former CEO of Motown Records, Ethiopia, Haberd Mariam, and others. Lil Rod says hidden cameras were in every room of Diddy's homes. Little Rod believes that Mr. Combs possesses compromising footage of every person that has attended his freak-off parties and his house parties. Salacious tapes of Hollywood's biggest names, including record CEOs and politicians doing drugs and cavorting with prostitutes and minors. The complaint argues that these freak-off parties were a business model. Young and up-and-coming talent attended and were promised career opportunities and access to music executives. They were then plied with drugs and alcohol, filmed. Some were blackmailed. There was a quid pro quo,

Starting point is 01:01:03 according to the complaint oh wow how surprising well i have a question for you yeah how does this sound any different than a hugh hefner playboy mansion party not none at all none at all except that there's a promise of a career well i guess you know you hey i can get to hugh i can get you in Playboy. Maybe that was the promise. You're completely right. It's ridiculous. The whole thing is a big distraction. Well, I don't know about that. Oh, yes.

Starting point is 01:01:33 Of course it is. Have you seen what's going on in the world? Airplanes are falling out of the sky. The airplane fell out of the sky. Well, the 737 MAX. the you know this piece is falling the boeing is an unreliable product yeah well there's your story yes how did that happen we've talked about on the show we know how it happened well uh the you put a ge guy in charge of anything and this is what you're gonna get hello and he quit he's resigning yeah yeah in a year well they've got to find a

Starting point is 01:02:06 successor but there is a new twist a new twist in what's a new chapter of alaska flight 12 i'm sorry a new chapter not a twist a chapter in what's a new chapter of alaska flight 1282 where the door plug on a boeing plane blew out while in the air the fbi seattle division has sent those passengers a letter it says we have identified you as a possible victim of a crime. Is it unusual for a letter like this to be sent out? This is extraordinary for the DOJ and the FBI to be issuing this letter. Attorney Mark Lindquist said the 27 passengers he represents in a lawsuit against Boeing and Alaska Airlines received the notice. This letter is a result of cumulative errors

Starting point is 01:02:45 by Boeing, cumulative negligence. The DOJ has just lost their patience, it seems. While the embattled company is not named in the FBI's letter, Lindquist says, everyone's drawing the inference that the target is Boeing. Alaska Airlines tells Como, in an event like this, it's normal for the DOJ to be conducting an investigation. We are fully cooperating and do not believe we are a target of the investigation. Boeing simply said they weren't commenting. Lindquist says the DOJ is working to see if there's grounds for new criminal charges. The door plug blew out at 16,000 feet. There were a variety of injuries. Had this happened at cruising altitude, you likely would have seen people sucked out of that hole. The pilot may have gone unconscious due to hypoxia.

Starting point is 01:03:32 The plane may have gone down. And in this case, the attorney welcomes a federal investigation. We want accountability. We want answers. And we want safer planes from Boeing. Yeah, I agree with that. We definitely want safer planes from Boeing. Yeah, I agree with that. We definitely want safer planes from Boeing. Boots on the ground, of course.

Starting point is 01:03:52 Word is Spirit Aero Systems, these are the guys who actually were split off from Boeing, I think, will be Boeing again by June 2025. The transition will start this June, will take one year to complete. Of course, very complicated because after Boeing sold this Wichita division to what became Spirit almost 20 years ago, they've taken in work from Airbus, Sikorsky, Bell, and others. Some think Boeing will take it all and Spirit will just cease to exist.

Starting point is 01:04:20 Others think Boeing will buy the commercial part and the defense part will remain autonomous. We should have a better idea in a few weeks. Boots on the ground in the industry close to the fire. So that looks more and more like military industrial complex work is involved here, too. Obviously. Yeah. And they don't want to change the direction of the cash cow. Well, no.

Starting point is 01:04:49 I never thought that I would be pro Airbus because, you know, they're basically plastic. I like sheet metal and rivets, but not these. These guys are no good. I don't have any clips on this this but i want to make some commentary on bobby the op oh i have a clip to set us up good here we go robert f kennedy jr has announced a relatively unknown political newcomer as his running mate in the race for the white house silicon valley lawyer nicole shanahan will join his independent ticket as they seek to win over voters unhappy with a b-Trump rematch.

Starting point is 01:05:25 Shanahan is the ex-wife of Google's co-founder and says she shares Kennedy's concerns about the environment and vaccines. There is only one candidate I have met for president who takes the chronic disease epidemic seriously. It is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and I will be his ally in making our nation healthy again. Shanahan has deep pockets. She donated $4 million to a super PAC that bought a Super Bowl commercial. I'd have some thoughts, too, but you go ahead. So this woman is the one behind that Kennedy ad that ran on the Super Bowl that was a throwback to the 60s.

Starting point is 01:06:04 Of course, she wasn't born until 84 or something like that. She doesn't even know who Kennedy was. But okay, so she's somehow responsible for that ad. She was brought in when Kennedy first came in as an independent, and he looks like

Starting point is 01:06:22 he's polling for about 12% as we speak, if he gets on all the ballots, which she can assure because she's got a lot of money. That's because of the Sergey Brin settlement. She was married to Sergey Brin for a little while. She met him at a yoga camp and got pregnant, had a kid. Did you hear that supposedly the reason they split up is that she banged Elon? It was in the newsletter. I thought you read it.

Starting point is 01:06:49 I'm just, not everyone who listens to the show reads the newsletter. Anyway, the newsletter has a very nice clip. And by the way, no one saw the newsletter. It went to junk. A lot of it, yeah. It hurt everything. It hurt donations, everything. It did, it did.

Starting point is 01:07:04 We got screwed. And I think it had to do with the title using the word killer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's on you. Yeah, yeah, totally. Well, it's not really because it's stupid. Yes, Monty83, there's a newsletter. Stupid trolls.

Starting point is 01:07:25 This woman is no good. She's just rich. Let me finish. I'm sorry. So she went on, supposedly had an affair with Elon, which they both deny, but he got divorced from her anyway because I think she's kind of, she is beyond the left-wing crackpot type because she just recently, as I mentioned, again, in the newsletter,

Starting point is 01:07:44 we discussed that she just recently as it mentioned again in the newsletter we discussed that she uh just recently after getting divorced she's had a druidic ceremony so she's a druid and i should mention that when i went to info world back in the 80s it when it was initially an intelligent machine journal it was run by druids really yeah and maggie cannon told me about it because she says she goes in there they go on there's machine journal. It was run by druids. Really? Yeah. And Maggie Cannon told me about it because she says she goes in there and they go on some Friday night or something. She goes back into the office for some reason. Everyone's wearing these

Starting point is 01:08:13 horns on their heads and doing some ceremony. At Info World? Yeah. This is some Silicon Valley lore I have not heard yet. Oh, yeah. And so there's a lot of druidic bull crap in Silicon Valley, and she's a part of it.

Starting point is 01:08:35 Didn't they meet at Burning Man, her current guy who works for... Yeah, they met at Burning Man. I want to read a little clip from Britannic about druids. Nobody knows anything about them, so it's all supposition and some... Hey, but can I just say, I've met a druid. Okay, tell us what you know. I met a druid in Amsterdam because we got DMT from a druid. Then he got it. Yeah, I did DMT twice in my life.

Starting point is 01:08:59 It's now 20 years ago. By the way, I enjoyed the experience. Don't have to do it again, but i enjoyed the experience don't have to do it again but i enjoyed the experience um and a druid comes over to the house and it's because you know pure dmt is from tree bark it's not synthesized how do you know he's a druid dude he had the horns on his head and everything no yes yeah he had the lots of you know like uh what's her name from stevie nicks type flowing robes and stuff it was great hey man you got some you got some tree bark for me so they're a weird bunch and when i saw the picture in the newsletter of her uh having her

Starting point is 01:09:42 hand-holding ceremony with the guy who works at lightning labs of all places bitcoin well no well lightning labs is very specific lightning labs they they built the first they built lightning node which is for the lightning network and those guys i think have lost their way to be quite honest they're they. They're a little nuts about money. You know, she's wearing like a druidic tree outfit with leaves and stuff, barefoot. So here's from Britannica. Nobody knew anything about the druids, so they had to go with Roman writings from Pliny the Elder and others. Other Roman writers also fixate on Druid's love of blood and gore. Pliny the Elder wrote of the Druid's appreciation for both mistletoe

Starting point is 01:10:30 and human sacrifice. To murder a man was to do the act of highest devoutness, he wrote, and to eat his flesh was to secure the highest blessings of health. Tacitus, the great historian, even described a battle in Wales in which druids covered their altars with the blood of captives and consulted their deities through human entrails. So they held up the, you know, somebody's intestines, who knows. Yeah. According to the writers, the pagan practitioners presented an existential threat to the Romans. So my thinking is that this woman was introduced to the campaign because Bobby the Op came in and he's polling about 12 percent. And initially he was taking from both Biden and Trump. But by bringing a druid in,

Starting point is 01:11:21 a pagan woman who is obviously a kind of a gold digger to say the least that she comes in adds to the ticket she's you know charming enough uh and she will kill any chance that a trump voter is going to cross over and vote for bobby the op that's ends that so he's only going to suck away the votes from biden and that's the reason she's there. That's the op right there. I completely concur. Word around town, because I know many people who are looking at Bobby the op. Oh, no.

Starting point is 01:11:56 Oh, no. No way. Because, you know, she sent money to the Soro sisters, DAs. She's a libtard. I'm just repeating what people around town say. He's completely and utterly destroyed any chance of any wavering Trump voter selecting Bobby. And this, I mean, first of all, it's just pathetic.

Starting point is 01:12:22 I mean, I understand that he had to get on the ballot and he needs like 15 or $20 million quick. So that was the choice. It's like, well, look, you got a lot of money. I'll make you my VP. And yes, I have to agree. I don't like calling people gold digger easily, but she sure seems to have all the traits of one.

Starting point is 01:12:47 And so that was the idea. And now we've got Trump as a shoe in. Yes. Because it's going to be. Completely. And Bobby the Op is just an insurance policy to make sure that Trump gets in. So somebody somewhere, some guys pulling, are intent on getting Trump elected. And I'd say this is the time to do the betting if you're in around Vegas.

Starting point is 01:13:11 Get in now while stocks last. And so I watched a majority of the, in fact, Del Bigtree was there. Because a lot of people like, and even though Trump is saying, even though Trump is saying, oh, it's horrible. You know, you can't vote for him. He's no good. Which I think is part of the op. It's just, it's just materializing. It still would not surprise me if, if Kennedy, if Trump wins, if Kennedy is not brought in for some cabinet post.

Starting point is 01:13:44 Yeah, it could be that would not surprise me um because all the people there who were speaking and speaking up to the uh up to kennedy coming out and then him announcing uh um what's her name uh what's her name shanahan shanna chan shanna chan i figured we'd put something right shanna chan that's her new name shanna chan that's her new name yeah so let's make it a little racist while we're at it shanna chan yeah um were people who had some very interesting things to say and i pulled one clip because i was watching in real time. Cali Means, this is the TrueMed guy. And I just love this. Who?

Starting point is 01:14:28 Cali Means is his name. Cali? Cali Means? Means. M-E-A-N-S. Cali Means. Oh, Means. Okay.

Starting point is 01:14:36 Yes. And he runs TrueMed, which is a, you know, natural path type outfit. Anti-pharma, anti-big pharma, but he has a history with big pharma and he talked about it. Working for the food and pharma industries early in my career, my job was to funnel money to institutions that Americans trust. We funneled money to civil rights groups. In return, the NAACP said it was imperative to keep Coca-Cola on food stamps. They actually said it was racist to take ultra-processed food and

Starting point is 01:15:13 soda off of food stamps. And today, soda is the number one item purchased with that program. We funneled money to medical organizations. The American Diabetes Association. Oh, yeah. Oh, you've never heard this? No, I never heard that soda was the number one thing bought by food stamps oh yeah of course well yeah you can you can use them at fast food remember very important using your snap card fast food they actually said it was racist to take ultra processed food and soda off of food stamps. Today, soda is the number one item purchased with that program. We funneled money to medical organizations.

Starting point is 01:15:51 The American Diabetes Association of all groups took millions of dollars from Coca-Cola, and they said small cans of the drink was a good choice for diabetics. The American Academy of Pediatrics, 80% of their funding comes from the pharmaceutical industry. We funneled money to researchers. I was shocked as a junior employee to be communing with top professors at Harvard and Tufts Nutrition School. I found that 11 times more funding

Starting point is 01:16:21 comes from the food industry for nutrition research than the NIH. I found out that more than 50% of the Harvard Med School budget touches pharma in some way. We funneled money to the media. Pharma funds over 50% of all TV news funding. And I realized that wasn't to influence consumers. That was to influence the news itself. And he went on and on and on and on.

Starting point is 01:16:44 And, of course, he went into Ozempic and how that's going to bankrupt Medicare. Even Bernie Sanders is now coming out saying, oh, we've got to get cheaper Ozempic. OK, thanks, Bernie. Yeah, that'll do it. Cheaper Ozempic. Don't don't mind the fact that you're going to put people on medication, kids on medication for the rest of their life. But let's get back to the to the the on medication for the rest of their life. But let's get back to the food stamps or the snap cards,

Starting point is 01:17:12 because you can use them at fast food, and they have a new addition, which is just, it's more input for the Ozempic. Two breakfast powerhouses are teaming up. Three types of Krispy Kreme donuts will reportedly go on sale at McDonald's later this year. The donuts will be available across the country at McDonald's by the end of 2026 after a phased rollout. The partnership could increase the scope of Krispy Kreme and today Krispy Kreme is giving away a free donut between 5 and 9 p.m. to celebrate. Unless they're putting that conveyor belt inside of the McDonald's and rolling them off hot.

Starting point is 01:17:48 There you go. Media loves it. But wait, there's more. We need more sugary stuff, whether it's high fructose corn syrup or sugar or aspartame or whatever you want it to be. Yes. I'd like to know what McDonald's thinks it's doing. First, they did this new Cosmos thing, which is just a sugary drink operation that was all jacked up about it. And we've

Starting point is 01:18:09 played many a clip from people going, oh, it's all great. And now Krispy Kreme donuts at McDonald's. If you had a nation that has money from the government in their hand and they're crack addicts, I'm pretty sure if you were enterprising, you'd be like, hey, Adam, I got an idea.

Starting point is 01:18:33 Let's stop this podcasting nonsense. Let's start a crack stand. So that's all that sugar is. It's crack. And we have a nation addicted to it. Oh, no, but don't worry because you got the olympic now and hey hey kids here's a good one for you let's double down duncan ready to give you a little buzz spiked ice coffees and teas are officially available now in chicago the coffee

Starting point is 01:19:00 comes in four flavors original caramel mocha vanilla. And while the teas have some unexpected flavors, they include a strawberry, dragon fruit, and a mango pineapple. These boozy drinks are not available in Dunkin' shops. Instead, they will be at local grocery stores. Of course, Jenna, in the liquor section. Of course, why not? Why not? Do you think there's going to be any raspberry in there? No.

Starting point is 01:19:23 Sugar. And to back up your piece about just buying everything left and right, I'm not going to play any of the 20 minute promotion that they did. But I want to play the intro to it because this adds right into it. This is the UBI presentation on NPR. Work on fighting poverty in the USA, pandemic government aid made it clear that giving people in need a little extra money could help them in huge ways. And they spend the money in ways that everyone does, right? On those basics, going to the grocery store, making sure the rent is paid, paying the car note, those sorts of things. Consider this. Universal basic income once seemed like a radical idea in the U.S. before the pandemic. But now many places in the country are pushing to make it a permanent part of the social safety net.

Starting point is 01:20:14 Yeah. Oh, there was a whole I missed it. A whole special on NPR about UBI. Yeah. And they went on and on with people talking about literally just throwing the money away. And that's okay because that's what people want to do when they got the money to do whatever they want with it. And it's just the damnedest thing I ever heard. No, remember, my take on the COVID situation has always been financial. It's always been financial. And now we have it. is perfect we've we've got inflation oh i'm sorry it's transitory we've got inflation then it's transitory uh well in fact

Starting point is 01:20:56 let's talk about that for a second this morning a dollar won't go quite as far at dollar trade these days the company now says it will increase its maximum price at stores to $7 this year. A $5 cap was put in place last summer. Family Dollar recently announced it will close close to 1,000 stores, 30 of which are Dollar Tree stores. So they had a cap last summer of

Starting point is 01:21:17 $5. Now it's $7. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, there used to be something called the Five and dime store. Yes, we had one closed just last year here in Fredericksburg. We had a five and dime on Main Street. And it closed. But just think about it.

Starting point is 01:21:37 They had a cap of $5 at the dollar store a year ago. Now it's $7. Is that not somewhere like a 30% increase? That's a big, big jump. Yes, that's your inflation. Look at TikTok. All the kids are crying. They can't afford rent.

Starting point is 01:21:53 They can't afford anything. I mean, in addition to their iPhone, of course, and their fancy car. Oh, yeah, they can spend a grand on an iPhone. That's fine. Well, it's on the payment plan. You know, it's all finance. It's all finance. Quote, unquote, it's free. it's on the payment plan you know it's all it's all finance it's all finance quote unquote it's free yes all finance through at&t mobile verizon but if you really

Starting point is 01:22:11 look at the seven trillion dollars that we created seven trillion was created by the banking system uh this came up on a very brief segment with mu El-Erian. He's an economist. He's often on CNBC. And they talked about the $7 trillion that we printed. And what are we going to do about it? Are we going to catch up? Are we going to pay that off? Because it's debt.

Starting point is 01:22:40 And China bought that. A lot of Chinese purchasing of our debt. And here is... First of all, by the way, I just want to make it clear that the United States Americans buy most of our debt and here is first of all by the way i just want to make it clear that the united states americans buy most of the debt our own we are stuck with the debt personally stuck with the debt yes our own treasury buy we buy our own debts called monetizing your debt we buy it ourselves correct and uh but what are we going to do about it are we going to pay it off we're going to fix it we're going to figure it out no but um why are we going to do about it? Are we going to pay it off? We're going to fix it. We're going to figure it out. No. But why are we at seven trillion? Why seven trillion next year?

Starting point is 01:23:09 Because whether it's the U.S. or elsewhere, we ratchet. We you never go back from the crisis. We don't. That's a bad defense. The U.K. is the same thing. It is sad. And at some point we're going to pay for this. We will pay for this. We have been saying this for so long that we're going to pay for it. We're going to be talking to Maya McGinnis a little later about some of the issues surrounding this, too. We've been saying this for so long, decades and decades. When does it actually? So remember the old PIMCO concept of the cleanest dirty shirt.

Starting point is 01:23:41 OK, we live in a relative world. the cleanest dirty shirt. We live in a relative world. So if we misbehave and others misbehave more, we don't get punished because we've got the reserve currency and we are the place where people outsource savings to. So as long as we remain the cleanest dirty shirt,

Starting point is 01:23:56 then we're not going to be punished. If others start being cleaner than us, then this will change. We have the cleanest dirty shirt. Exactly. That's a greatest dirty shirts. Exactly. That's a great analogy. It's perfect. And this is why they have to,

Starting point is 01:24:12 they must create a central bank digital currency. They have to. For all the UBI, for all of the newcomers who are welcoming in, if, oh, we're getting you a work permit, don't worry, here's your card, here's your ID, here's your UBI. It's a foregone conclusion. And just to add to that, the, let me see, where do I have it here?

Starting point is 01:24:44 The UBI part, or the digital ID part is really approaching very rapidly, and we're going to usher that in for social media. I know you don't agree with it, and you say it's crazy, and yes, you'll be able to get around it, but California already has SB 1228, Large Online Platforms User Identity Authentication. This bill would require a large online platform as defined to seek to verify the name, telephone number, and email address of an influential user as defined by means chosen by the large online platform, And would require the platform to seek to verify the identity of highly influential users as defined by asking to review the highly influential users government issued identification. And this is happening everywhere, including Florida.

Starting point is 01:25:39 Childhood has completely changed. And the reason has changed, of course, is because of the smartphone. Kids today, teenagers today, according to the research, they are more sedentary, more solitary, more anxious, more depressed, more risk averse. Something has changed and it seems to be the access to the phone. So now here comes the state of Florida. Yesterday, Ron DeSantis assigned the most restrictive social media ban for teenagers anywhere in the country. Social media banned for teenagers anywhere in the country. People 14 and under banned from social media in the state of Florida. 15 and 16 year olds will need parental consent.

Starting point is 01:26:16 DeSantis says this satisfied me the way the bill was written. I think it's a fair application of the law and the Constitution. There, of course, will be lawsuits as there have been in other states. The Republican speaker of the House there in the state of Florida says we're going to beat those lawsuits. We're going to beat them and we are never going to stop. This is a major, major deal. But how do you police this? Exactly, because my 10 year old will register on Instagram or TikTok as though she's of a certain age. And it's about I have to take the phone away.

Starting point is 01:26:44 Well, it becomes a legal liability for the companies. I mean, Instagram knows me well enough to know that I spill a lot of things on my pants, and I get nothing but ads for spilled things on pants, right? They know their customer. They know when it's a 10-year-old versus a 28-year-old. But the point is, past bans have struggled on free speech grounds, right? There's an access to information that should be available even to young people. What's unique about the Florida law and the way it's written, which will be a legal test that we're going to be talking about, is it's not about the information, it's about the

Starting point is 01:27:13 qualities of the app. So the infinite scroll, the addictive algorithm, the information you can access on a www.straightupcomputer. Yeah, and he goes on and on and on. Okay, I want to go down this rabbit hole for a few minutes because there's a lot of people out there talking about the apps and social media being very bad for children. Here's the ABC Good Morning America. Let me see, is this it? Yes, this is... I think they bring in jonathan hate here uh who just wrote a book about this this is a good morning america about the florida social

Starting point is 01:27:55 media ban we turn now to a social media showdown in florida governor ronda santos signing a bill banning children under 14 from having their own social media accounts, but it's expected to face a number of legal challenges. And Ariel Reshef joins us now with more. I can imagine a bumpy road ahead. A bumpy road ahead. A lot of very strong opinions on this one. If this law holds, Florida will have one of the most restrictive social media bans in the country. The bill signed by Governor Ron DeSantis won't take effect until January 1st and is likely to face major legal challenges. The new measure bars social media accounts for children under the age of 14 and requires parental consent for 15 and 16-year-olds. It also mandates that social media platforms search for and remove the profiles of kids who don't meet the age requirement.

Starting point is 01:28:41 Proponents have argued that access to social media is harmful to children's mental health. It's not yet clear which social media companies would be impacted, but the trade group Net Choice, which represents several major social media giants, slammed the move as unconstitutional, saying it violates the First Amendment, the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, and federal law. Florida, it's not the first state to enact this type of ban. Arkansas and Ohio have also passed similar legislation, Lindsay, but both are tied up in court. Since the phrase was used by request. But slam!

Starting point is 01:29:13 Yeah, we got to bring that back. You got slammed. They slammed him for this. So then they bring on Jonathan Haidt, H-A-I-D-T. He wrote The Coddling of the American Mind, great book. And now he's gone off the rails as far as I'm concerned. He is now advocating for the only way we can do this is government ID. The only way, which of course is not the solution, but it is what I predicted. this issue. It's called The Anxious Generation, How the Great Rewiring of Childhood is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness. And author and social psychologist Jonathan Haidt is joining us now to talk about it. This is going to be interesting because all the research that even Zuckerberg said it in the most recent hearing, oh, there's absolutely no proof. There's no proof

Starting point is 01:30:03 that social media messes with your mental health. There's no proof at all. Why this book? Why now? Because I'm a social psychologist. And as I've been digging into what's happening in the social lives of kids, I've graphed out all the data from all these studies. And what we see over and over again is that levels of mental illness, they're sort of stable in the early 2000s. And what we see over and over again is that levels of mental illness, they're sort of stable in the early 2000s. And then right around 2012, 13, they all go shooting up. We're talking about depression, anxiety, self-harm. Suicide is up by more than 50% among American teens. And it's not just us. It's actually happening in many other countries.

Starting point is 01:30:39 So we need to understand why. And that's what the book is about. So notice he says 2013. That's when the social media networks really started, where they had momentum at that point. Not the introduction of the smartphone. And you really peg this to smartphone use, the age of the smartphone and seeing the prevalence of it. And this generation, Gen Z, is really an experiment in what happens when you put a smartphone in everyone's hand. Well, that's right, because the millennials went through puberty with flip phones and flip phones aren't particularly bad. You use them just to communicate. It was

Starting point is 01:31:13 when we gave kids smartphones. And then right around that time, they also got Instagram and other social media accounts. When kids move their social lives onto social media like that, it's not human. It doesn't help them develop. And right away, mental health collapses. Okay, so this is bullcrap. Because Facebook didn't even have an app for the longest time. If you recall, even Wall Street was like, Facebook, man, they're not going to make it because they don't have an app.

Starting point is 01:31:41 Remember that? Oh, yeah. So it wasn't the smartphone. I'm not saying the smartphone is great yeah so it wasn't the smartphone i'm not saying the smartphone is great but it wasn't the phone and i have a sneaky suspicion that this lawsuit against apple is is more about taking away um or distracting from the social media companies and the apps that run on the smartphone focusing it on bad bad Apple. Oh, you're bad. I think we'll see. I have a clip about that.

Starting point is 01:32:08 Let's bring it in before I continue. This is the, we didn't do the mashup of the Apple, or I'm sorry, the three by three, but this is the mashup of the three by three that brings every network into the picture and their commentary about Apple. Tonight, the U.S. Justice Department is looking to take a bite out of Apple. The Department of Justice filing a landmark lawsuit today against Apple. Tonight, the U.S. Justice Department is looking to take a bite out of Apple. The Department of Justice filing a landmark lawsuit today against Apple. The DOJ in 16 states accusing

Starting point is 01:32:30 Apple of monopolizing the smartphone market. Antitrust lawsuit against Apple, the second largest company in the U.S. and the world. Its stock fell 4% today. Consumers should not have to pay higher prices because companies break the law. Attorney General Merrick Garland claiming that Apple's 70% domination over the U.S. smartphone market is a result of illegal behavior. The DOJ alleges Apple, worth $2.7 trillion, unfairly tries to keep users hooked on iPhones and charges high fees from app developers. Apple has consolidated its monopoly power, not by making its own products better, but by making other products worse. The Justice Department joining more than a dozen states in nearly a 90-page complaint accusing the company of violating antitrust laws through the iPhone, Apple Watch, and Apple Pay. And DOJ alleges to tech giant Blox, third third-party apps and other services from competing with Apple products,

Starting point is 01:33:29 like denying iPhone users access to any other digital wallet tap-to-pay service other than Apple Pay. The DOJ specifically calls out Apple for allegedly boxing out other companies' devices to help keep track of items like keys, to give an edge to its own AirTag, and for allowing lower-quality text messages between iPhone and Android users. Apple pushing back, saying in part, this lawsuit threatens who we are and the principles that set Apple products apart. If successful, it would hinder our ability to create the kind of technology people expect from Apple. Apple denies the allegations and says a victory for the government

Starting point is 01:34:07 would also set a dangerous precedent, empowering government to take a heavy hand in designing people's technology. Apple basically telling DOJ, see you in court. The company is expected to file a legal response soon. Apple officials said in their statement tonight, DOJ's lawsuit is wrong on the facts and the law. The feeling inside Apple's Cupertino headquarters is to fight back hard against what they are calling a misguided assault. And the Justice Department says if left unchallenged, Apple will continue to strengthen its monopoly.

Starting point is 01:34:37 But the department hasn't ruled out even breaking up Apple if necessary, a drastic step that hasn't happened since Bell Systems back in 1982. Not to make it personal, but I can't send my mom certain videos or she can't send me certain videos. And so we leave her out. Buy your mom an iPhone. Yeah, you know, they're attacking the most successful device manufacturer.

Starting point is 01:35:01 I know. They really are. Meanwhile, I mean, this kind of just came out, but this happened between 2016 and 2019. Facebook was making a lot of their users try out their VPN. Did you catch this story? No, I did not catch this story. Yeah. So they had a VPN product. And so they, you know, they offered, uh you know they have their root certificate and they were and that this this is all emails that are published now and this is only just now coming to light uh zuckerberg every it was called ghostbusters this project internally because

Starting point is 01:35:35 they had the um they had the root cert they were conducting a a man in the middle attack to intercept and decrypt what their users were looking at on Snapchat, YouTube, and Amazon. I mean, that is possibly the worst thing you could do. And, of course, it makes you think about the VPN provider you're using. And they had kits, root kits for Android and iOS that impersonated official servers and decrypted traffic Facebook wasn't authorized to access. Of course not. So they could plan competitive moves against Snapchat and other companies. Nice.

Starting point is 01:36:15 Wow. That's not a big story at all. No. Like I said, I haven't heard this story, and it's a killer. And on top of that, it's now coming out that the Department of Justice demanded from Google all information about certain accounts, users who accessed certain YouTube videos around January 6th. Yeah, this is a good one. So there you go. YouTube videos around January 6th. Yeah, this is a good one. So if you, so, you know, there you go. You're watching the video, you know, it gets heated up.

Starting point is 01:36:54 So it shows up in your recommendation. You click on it. Boom, you're on a list. Yep. You're on a list. This is, it's all, the season of reveal is upon us. But we still have to deal with these social media companies, World Health Organization getting in on the gambit. The schoolyard bully is increasingly becoming a cyber bully. A new study from the World Health Organization finds online harassment among adolescents is on the rise, magnified by the increase in their digital interactions.

Starting point is 01:37:24 is on the rise, magnified by the increase in their digital interactions. About one in six adolescents say that they have been cyberbullied once or twice in the last couple of months. And here we can see that there's not much of a gender difference. The study used data from 44 countries and regions across Europe, Central Asia, and Canada. Researchers surveyed more than a quarter million kids aged 11 to 15 years old. For boys, cyberbullying peaked at age 11. For girls, age 13. And these kids now spend up to six hours a day online. Bullying inside schools has declined over the past decade as cyberbullying surged. Social media companies such as Meta have beefed up child safety features recently in an effort to limit harassment and exposure to harmful content. But the WHO says there needs to

Starting point is 01:38:19 be more education around the dangers of cyberbullying, as well as an increased investment in peer violence monitoring. All right, so lots of monitoring going on. But I'm just thinking about, you know, it was Google who pushed so hard, let's encrypt, pushed so hard that every website has to be SSL encrypted, which I refuse on web pages that I host that are just pages of like a show notes. No. Yeah, who cares? Well, they also control the browser that then shows a little thief with a mask like trying to get your data.

Starting point is 01:38:55 He's reaching through your browser. Oh, dangerous. Oh, accept the risks. Move on. Who controls those certificates? Who controls the root certificate of all this stuff? Is it really to be trusted? I doubt that.

Starting point is 01:39:14 I doubt it too. So now we bring on... These guys are all scammers at heart. Now we bring on our Surgeon General Vivek Murthy. And this is on CNN on the Amampur show. And, well, everything's just bad. Are you surprised that this country, I mean, you know, pretty close to top of the tables in the OECD nations,

Starting point is 01:39:38 is the second most unhappy, depressed country in the world. Only Uzbekistan has it worse. Oh, we're better than Uzbekistan. You might as well just call us foam finger number one. Well, I'm deeply concerned, but I think one of the key lessons from this is that economic prosperity alone is not the key to happiness. And in fact, what we are seeing is that in many, many countries, which are increasingly modernizing in terms of their economy, their culture, etc. We're actually seeing that unhappiness is growing. And I think that's coming for a few different reasons. One of them is because we are actually pulling further and further apart from one another

Starting point is 01:40:14 with the benefits and efficiencies of modern technology and ways of life. We actually have fewer friends that we trust. We have fewer relationships we can rely on. And that is a direct impact on our happiness and well-being. The other challenge, though, is I think technology has been a mixed blessing for us. And I think particularly when it comes to young people, the impact of social media on their mental health has often been quite negative, which is why last year I issued a Surgeon General's advisory on social media and youth mental health to point out the fact that when young people are using social media, as they often are for more than three hours a day they double their risk of anxiety and depression symptoms which is great and we can get more uh anti-depression

Starting point is 01:40:55 drugs don't you're not fooling me vivek so let's uh continue on uh by the way three hours a day try six you have in, gone even further comparing social media and the tech companies to 20th century car giants, which have produced vehicles without seatbelts and airbags until legislation mandated it. What a horrible, horrible analogy. How about just drugs? What's happening in social media is the equivalent of having children in cars that have no safety features and driving on roads with no speed limits, no traffic lights, no rules whatsoever. And we're telling them, you know what, do your best, figure it out. It's insane. Yeah, that is what we've done to our children. We've put them in unsafe, untenable environments, and we're hoping for the best.

Starting point is 01:41:43 And you know who else we've placed the burden on? Our parents. Parents all across the world are trying to figure out how to manage social media for their kids. These platforms are rapidly evolving. Many parents never grew up with them. And what they are finding is that their kids are often exposed to extraordinary harms, whether that's violence and sexual content, whether it's content generated by the algorithm that in some cases tells them to harm themselves. And the experience itself, many young people tell me, has led them to often feel worse about themselves and about their friendships, yet they feel they can't get off of it because the features that are built in are meant to maximize how much time we all spend on them. And that is a profound source of concern for me as a doctor, as I watched the profound and disturbing health effects on our kid.

Starting point is 01:42:29 Hey, Silicon Valley, they're coming for you. They're coming for you. 80s about video games. Oh, these video games are going to ruin the children. And that evolved over time into simulations that have good and bad benefits. But then we have these clips. Listen to this. Flow state of mind. There's a state of mind called flow when you're completely absorbed in an activity that's challenging but not too hard. Artists feel it when they paint or draw. Musicians feel it when they play an instrument. It's a sense of deep engagement with an activity where you might look up and suddenly notice a lot of time has passed. And flow can help you feel less stressed, says Kate Sweeney, a psychology professor at the University of California,

Starting point is 01:43:25 Riverside. Flow is really good for us. It gives us a lot of positive emotions, but it's also especially well-suited to times when we're really in our heads, when we're worried about the future, when we're ruminating about something and we just can't turn it off. Flow is a pretty good off switch for that kind of thinking. Sweeney says an easy way to achieve flow is by playing video games. Yeah, before you know it, you're in a movie produced by Dana Brunetti. Yeah, well, there's that, but there's a part two to this. But that, it's like, wait a minute. You know, everything that we're, all the information that they throw at us is all bogus.

Starting point is 01:44:01 Can I just say? They tell us one thing one minute, then they tell us something else the next. This flow thing. I've never heard of this. I would say that, you know, if we on this podcast right now say, video games are bad, there's proof, then you will get a million emails,

Starting point is 01:44:20 there's no evidence, video games are great. By the way, I think that's how a lot of dudes become trans. But the video game industry is huge. They have a lot of money. They got a lot bigger than Hollywood. They have a lot of money and there's a lot of lobbying. And a lot of that is military industrial complex who love the simulation. If you can become a third place at Le Mans as a sim driver,

Starting point is 01:44:47 I'm pretty sure you can be good on the battlefield. If you've played war of Warcraft or whatever it's called. Yeah. Sports ball. Yeah. Sports ball. And the other one, the what's,

Starting point is 01:45:00 what's the other one? Call of duty. I bet you could bet you're a decent warrior. I bet you're a good soldier. Well, that was the thesis of a movie that's never been produced again. It was produced once in the 70s called The Last Starfighter, and everyone that's listened to this show had probably seen the movie.

Starting point is 01:45:16 And it was based on the premise that they could put a video game out into public domain, and then the kid who could beat the whole game and be the best in the country could be solicited for an intergalactic battle with some bad dudes

Starting point is 01:45:32 in outer space. And it's one of the really great movies and it's never been done again and it's never been fully explained why they can't produce this movie again. I think it's because this is in play as we speak. but you can play the second part of the flow good one there's really two groups of people who know a lot about flow

Starting point is 01:45:51 that's psychologists and video game designers and video games are really kind of as a whole built for exactly this purpose they're getting harder as you get better they're showing you when you're making progress sweeney studied how video games help people worry less. She recruited 300 college students and put them in a slightly stressful situation. They were unexpectedly photographed and made to believe that their peers would be rating their picture. While the students waited, they played a game that was similar to Tetris. There were three versions of the classic game where players have to stack up falling blocks. There was a hard one where the blocks moved too quickly and frustrated the players. And a slow one that was too boring.

Starting point is 01:46:32 And a third version that was just right and allowed players to achieve flow. And the folks who were in that state, that flow state that we created with the game, they had an easier time waiting for that news about their attractiveness than those who were in the other conditions. Sweeney says flow can be a bit of a gateway to addiction, but anything can be addictive if you do it too much. It's a great tool for flow as long as you're not sort of overdoing it and checking out too much from your life. I need flow. I'm going to download that just right Tetris game. Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, you get into state of flow, you're primed to become trans. I'm going to download that Just Right Tetris game. Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, you get into a state of flow, you're primed to become trans. I'm telling you right now, you can email me.

Starting point is 01:47:10 That's why it's called flow, because that's what you're going to call yourself. I'm flow. My name's flow. Yes. It puts you in a state of trans. Yeah. It's simulation. It is a simulator.

Starting point is 01:47:21 And you'll see. And people say, oh, two boomers talking about video games hey we've been we've been around video games longer than you've been on the planet okay i was addicted to asteroids for quite a while asteroids oh there you go that's the original that was og pinball oh gee that's an og again that's a great that was a great game when it came out asteroids was phenomenal especially the arcade version anyway well that's the one that yeah that was the one let's get back to uh how we're going to kill our kids and now with ai by the way for the for you dude video gamers this is for you and so of course now everybody thinks ai is going

Starting point is 01:48:01 to be the replacement you you know, for romance. Not just dating apps, but actual robots and things. What's your view on that? So I think it can be tempting and easy to look at AI as a panacea for all ills. And it might be easier and more convenient to turn to a chatbot than to go out and build a relationship. But these are fundamentally different. There is no replacement for in-person human connection. It's how we were evolved over thousands of years we were wired hardwired to connect with one another and we've got to intentionally build that back into our life now because it is slipping

Starting point is 01:48:34 away i think we this is where we bring in the incels to bring this back in a way to social media that you are very concerned about um social media algorithms amplify misogynistic content. Again. No, they amplify influencers telling you to get on antidepressants because hot girls take Lexapro. All about women. Podcaster and business professor

Starting point is 01:48:57 at NYU, Scott Galloway, has said, you know... Business professor? Isn't he a professor of marketing? Business... Hold on. Stop's your it's your beat oh scott galloway you can't tell me he's a business professor let me see this let me see what is he yeah yeah clinical clinical professor of marketing. What is that? I have no idea what that is. Sounds like something you can get off of a podcast.

Starting point is 01:49:34 Clinical professor? Clinical professor of marketing. At what school? NYU. NYU is screwed up. I mean, we could give out clinical professor. Clinical. Get a clinical podcaster.

Starting point is 01:49:49 That's our next PhD. Misogynistic content. Again, all about women. Podcaster and business professor at NYU, Scott Galloway, has said, you know, there is a really dangerous phenomenon. There is a really dangerous phenomenon. We do not want young, lonely, that has, as I think of it, a high emotional valence. That means that content that's going to stoke our emotions. If you want to draw people's attention in, psychology will tell you that the best way to do that is to stoke anxiety, fear, and anger.

Starting point is 01:50:44 There are so many parents, Christian, that I have met all across the United States who have told me that when their child was in a moment of emotional distress, they broke up with a girlfriend or a boyfriend or they had a major disappointment in life, that at those times they have sometimes turned to social media for help. Sometimes. up content that in fact amplifies their sadness. In too many cases, parents have told me that in those settings, the algorithm brought content to their child that not only suggested that they take their own life, but actually walk them through how to do that. And in many cases, their child did end up losing their life. These are unconscionable circ*mstances and situations that should not be allowed. Here's Adam's advice. Stop scrolling. Start seeking. Get off of this stuff. Parents, you're going to be held responsible. We already are putting parents in jail because their kid got a gun and shot up the school. you'll be responsible for everything your child does.

Starting point is 01:51:46 If you don't get them off social media, get them on the basketball court, get them on the fence, get him on the fencing boards, anything, anything but this. Let me cake the fencing court. How many schools have that? That's how I got into fencing. I was quite good at fencing. know that don't you i was you bring it up every every couple years yeah i was third and jc was actually pretty good at the dutch national i never got beyond foil i always wanted to saber but i got stuck at foil but uh yeah fencing is it's pretty cool and they i remember they came to the school,

Starting point is 01:52:25 they did a demonstration, and they choose two kids, and you're sitting there like, oh man, I wish they would have chosen me, and said, hey, you can come by the studio. It's actually a fencing studio. Come by the studio. The master will give you a free lesson.

Starting point is 01:52:39 I was hooked. I loved it. It's perfect for soy boys. It's great. You don't need to be that athletic to win at fencing. Anything but this. Anything. They won't even let you do dodgeball anymore.

Starting point is 01:52:54 Fencing's too dangerous. Yeah, I had quite the reach, actually, as a kid. All right. as a kid um all right we can now move to uh the latest uh in i think replacement migration actually there's a there's a guy i think he's on i know he's on telegram but he's also on uh i'm on x rgv truth rgv truth and he's And he is down by the border on the other side, and he is sending me pictures. It's all United Nations International Office of Migration. They got signs. They got instructions.

Starting point is 01:53:38 They give you your bag, your hat, your card. It's all a setup. It's all to move people into our country because they don't want to have wages rise in fact we need to suppress them with cheap labor the minute they get here the system gets overloaded see chicago then we need work permits right away thank you unions and uh well what about the people who were flying in how about those senate amendment that over 300 000 here we go senate amendment that would ban the use of taxpayer money to fly migrants into the u.s goes down in a whopping defeat it was 51 47 every republican

Starting point is 01:54:20 voted for it every democrat voted against it it. Republican Senator Bill Hagerty out of Tennessee proposed the amendment. He joins us in the studio and hello to you. Was the writing on the wall before this thing even hit the floor? You know, it was amazing. Chuck Schumer tried everything he could to block this until the very dead of night. We ran right up to basically a government shutdown before he finally capitulated and said, OK, we'll put it on the floor. But I didn't get it onto the floor till the middle of the night, perhaps 1, 1.30 in the morning when the vote went down. I think they thought no one would see it. No one would see that every Democrat voted to fly illegal migrants in here from countries like Haiti, Cuba, Nicaragua, Colombia,

Starting point is 01:55:00 on taxpayer funds using charter flights, flying them over our border and putting them into the interior of America. How many are we talking about, Senator? 320,000 last year. Now, on the other hand, if we don't do this, and this is an interesting way also a little bit about birth control and Planned Parenthood and abortion rights. but look at what's happening in japan immigration not encouraged immigration i don't think it's easy to to go and live in japan i'm not sure very hard it is very hard it makes sense yeah makes sense because their birth rate has plummeted it's been down for decades, and now this is the result. With birth rates dropping dramatically in Japan, a company there has announced that it is stopping production of diapers for babies.

Starting point is 01:55:54 It says demand is simply not there. Instead, it's refocusing on the growing market, diapers for adults. In fact, Pampers for Your Parents have outsold diapers for your newborn now for about a decade. It's a surprising piece of data that shines a light on a serious problem. The number of births in Japan dropped to a new low last year with more than twice as many deaths as new babies born. If things continue that way, Japan's population could shrink by 30% over the next 45 years. I'm pleased to welcome to the day Jennifer Robertson. She's a professor of anthropology and history of art at the University of Michigan.

Starting point is 01:56:33 Basically, the demographic, the chart has flip-flopped in the past century. And successive Japanese governments, have they tried and been unable to encourage the people to get married and have more babies? Now, listen to this. Very good question. Well, during the height of the Pacific War, roughly 1932 to 1945 in Japan, the government withheld birth control and also allowed soldiers to take two-week furloughs so they could impregnate their wives, to put it directly. Today, in democratic Japan, they can't do that. And so they are trying all sorts of options, giving more money to families to have children. The idea was floated back during the administration of the late former prime minister Abe in 2006-7 to introduce robots to the home, but that hasn't proved feasible at all.

Starting point is 01:57:34 Robots, robo-sapiens, that's the answer. The real answer, which was a subtext in what she had to say is financial incentives would make a huge difference if it was a real incentive as opposed to no incentive or oh here's a tax credit exactly you start giving people the kind of money they're just throwing away on the immigrants you can you get some babies out of it yes but no they don't even think about that because they don't want you that's right that's right well that's our that's our choice here in america make babies that's my uh that's my uh advice okay uh so i want to introduce you to Entremont, something a little different. Yeah, please.

Starting point is 01:58:27 Because it's kind of an ask Adam. I'm kind of depressed now. I mean, we've got Japanese diapers for adults. I mean, what are we going to do? Robots. Robots. How about this? This is an, I consider this a.

Starting point is 01:58:44 Do I need to get the jingle? No. I consider this a native ad. This is NPR ad for WTF meals. This is not the bonus, which I don't really want to play, but I want you to play this. Home Chef delivers home-cooked meals

Starting point is 01:58:59 to your dinnertime routine. Each weekly menu rotates 15 oven-ready and fast and fresh meals that cook in the oven or microwave for a fresh, flavorful meal with minimal steps. After you're done, toss the tin for easy cleanup. Wow. You're telling me that wasn't an ad? That was an ad copy? No, no, that wasn't an ad. It was actually an ad. Ad copy, yeah. So So the question to you is, how does this differ from the 1970s

Starting point is 01:59:31 and something called the Swanson TV dinner? The TV dinner, sure. With the tin that you toss into the bin. Yes, yes. This is exactly the same. They've reintroduced the Swanson TV dinner to the American public making it some sort of high-tech bull crap, kind of like where, you know, Apron and all these other operations kind of failed.

Starting point is 01:59:55 Here, we're going to send you a whole box of these things, cook them, put them in the oven or the microwave, although putting tin and stuff, you know, metal in the microwave is not necessarily uh productive uh but well hold on a second let's let's let's see if we can find a swanson tv dinner commercial 1955 here we go so you guys think you're lucky you can get swanson tv turkey dinners but i say swanson TV turkey dinners are a bigger break for husbands. Now, you take me. I can be early, I can be late, I can bring pals to dinner any time I please. And get this, my wife never panics. Never panics, my wife is great.

Starting point is 02:00:37 She just takes Swanson TV turkey dinners from the freezing compartment of our refrigerator when I'm a little off schedule. And right you are, Jack. And that is because Mary Lou knows that she can have a swell dinner ready in just 25 minutes. Hey, honey, can you make a swell dinner for me tonight, honey? Five minutes. Right. And talk about easy.

Starting point is 02:00:57 Well, she just pops Swanson TV turkey dinners in a hot oven. There you go. You know, they're oven ready and individual heat and serve trays. Yes. With Swanson TV turkey dinners, you just heat and serve. There you go. You know, they're oven-ready in individual heat-and-serve trays. Yes. With Swanson TV turkey dinners, you just heat and serve. Heat and serve. And you serve big and hearty slices

Starting point is 02:01:11 of moist, tender Swanson turkey with grand giblet gravy. Giblet. And special cornbread dressing. And fluffy whipped sweet potatoes. Get to the tin part. With golden Swanson butter. Mmm.

Starting point is 02:01:23 And garden-fresh peas with more butter. Mmm, butter. Lucky me. My wife uses Swanson TV turkey dinners. And make your husband lucky, too. Get Swanson TV turkey dinners. Make your husband lucky. Swanson TV fried chicken dinners.

Starting point is 02:01:38 Swanson TV beef dinners from your grocer's big freezer. They didn't have the payoff of toss the tin. Yeah, well, everyone expected to toss the tin. I guess they knew enough to do that anyway. Yeah. But yeah, I remember these things when I was a kid. Here's a 30-second from the 70s.

Starting point is 02:01:57 This is better, maybe. Let's see. Pull up a chair, America. Sit right down there, America. swanson's cooking just for you swanson puts dinner together the way you like it crispy juicy chicken with all the fixings with swanson you choose dark meat or white meat dinners you get just what you want i got the drumstick from today's swanson your choice of chicken dinners. Swanson's cooking just for you.

Starting point is 02:02:29 No, no tossing of the tin. Anyway. As an aside, the family ended up selling the business. Of course, it folded after they sold it. And bought the Swanson Winery in Napa Valley. Oh, really? Can you toss away the bottle? Of course you can.

Starting point is 02:02:45 You can toss away the bottle? Of course you can. You can toss away the bottle. So you're right. The only difference is the term TV because that was the big thing and we had TV dinner trays and you'd set up... We had trays. So you'd set it up,

Starting point is 02:02:58 you'd be sitting on the couch. So you could sit in the... Yep. Right. You'd sit on the couch and it would unfold. Eat your dinner. And it was called that.

Starting point is 02:03:04 It was a tv dinner tray or tv dinner table which one was it i don't remember yeah i still have a set of them i used to use them until jay came around when she was a little girl yeah we have to eat in the dining room oh yeah no it was a big deal if we could eat in front of the tv that was like okay kids because cool because the movies on before, before we had a video recorders. Oh, can we sit and can we watch,

Starting point is 02:03:30 can we eat dinner while we're watching TV mom? And now it's just, Hey, throw it in the microwave, eat it while you're on your video game and scrolling on Twitter. Now how we've devolved. Start fencing kids. Start fencing. Ah, how we've devolved. Start fencing, kids. Start fencing.

Starting point is 02:03:49 Okay, well, there was some, you know, kind of odd. I have a couple of clips here. I would like to play them. The M5M just went off the rails with this Rona McDaniels. Yeah, I have a couple clips, too. These are actually from Deadline. So it's What's-Her-Face, Nicole Wallace. Mine will be from Jesse Walker.

Starting point is 02:04:12 Since it's about MSNBC and not Jesse Walken, I'm going to play these first. The times in which we do this, when we meet, you and us here at the table are, I don't have to tell you this, dire. This show has dedicated itself to a jarring pursuit of the

Starting point is 02:04:32 uncomfortable truths about our politics and our political leaders and our justice system and, yes, the media. Today, this network is part of that story. On Friday, NBC News announced it had hired Ronna McDaniel as a paid contributor. By Saturday night, it was reported in the Wall Street Journal

Starting point is 02:04:49 that MSNBC President Rashida Jones had separated this network from that decision, indicating that Ronna McDaniel would not appear on our air. I love the seriousness of just how serious Nicole Wallace takes herself and the journalistic integrity of the NBC News Department? I find this whole story because of the NBC, the guy who runs the news department being a spineless weenie, and everybody, and this is the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed, that some news, that these people think they're newsmen and they're not. They're just a bunch of chatterboxes. I'm Walter Cronkite's prodigy, damn it.

Starting point is 02:05:33 By Sunday morning, following her first paid appearance on NBC's Meet the Press, my colleague Chuck Todd went full William McEvoy. Went full what? William McEvoy? Who's William McEvoy. Went full what? William McEvoy? Who's William McEvoy? You're asking the wrong guy. I'll look up William McEvoy and see who it is. On behalf of who's paying her. Once at the RNC, she did say that.

Starting point is 02:05:57 Hey, I'm speaking for the party. I get that. That's part of the job. So, what about here? When NBC made the decision to give her NBC News' credibility, you've got to ask yourself, what does she bring NBC News? And when we make deals like this, and I've been at this company a long time, you're doing it for access. Access to audience. Sometimes it's access to an individual. And we can have a journalistic ethics debate about that.

Starting point is 02:06:26 I'm willing to have that debate. So I do think, unfortunately, this interview is always going to be looked through the prism of who is she speaking for. Unfortunately, they didn't have the debate about all the shills that they have hired, like John Brennan, for access to

Starting point is 02:06:42 the intelligence communite, all the former generals they have for access to the military industrial complex. They have Scott, what's his face from Pfizer. You know, he's always on CNBC for access to big pharma. This is,

Starting point is 02:07:02 that's the debate that I would have liked to have seen. You have chip Todd, Chip Todd podcaster. Did you find out who that guy is? There's a million of them, including the ex-CEO of Pan American Airways. No, you can't figure out who it is, a football player, a botanist. That name is very common, so I don't know what the reference is to and i guess you'd have to work at msnbc to understand it back to nicole wallace my colleagues joe scarborough maker brzezinski also weighed in this morning we weren't asked our opinion of the hiring but if we were we would have strongly objected to it for several reasons oh it's the newsroom on hbo that's uh

Starting point is 02:07:41 It's the newsroom on HBO. That's, well, there's a reference for you. The guy that you're looking for. Ugh. Yeah. So it's a fictional character. A fictional character. But if we were, we would have strongly objected to it for several reasons, including, but not limited to, as lawyers might say, But not limited to, as lawyers might say, Ms. McDaniel's role in Donald Trump's fake elector scheme and her pressuring election officials to not certify election results while Donald Trump was on the phone. To be clear, we believe NBC News should seek out conservative Republican voices to provide balance in their election coverage.

Starting point is 02:08:24 Take out conservative Republican voices to provide balance in their election coverage. But it should be conservative Republicans, not a person who used her position of power to be an anti-democracy election denier. I love it when the news reports on itself. And they're not just reporting on other news people. No, themselves. They take themselves so... Do you not realize that we all laugh at you? That we mock you? And wait until this is the kicker.

Starting point is 02:08:55 They take themselves so seriously. For what are they doing? Like 900,000 viewers? This podcast has more listeners than you have viewers people for our part here we're going to cover this story as part of our ongoing series of conversations about american autocracy asking the question or positing the theory that it could happen here i'm going to read to you an excerpt from timothy snyder's on tyranny timothy snyder on who is this i don't know is this another queer reference?

Starting point is 02:09:25 I'm standing by to talk to us. This is from the first page of the first chapter of on tyranny. Quote, most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given in times like these. Individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want and then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power what it can do. End quote. In this instance, NBC News either... It's Timothy. Timothy knows what he's talking about.

Starting point is 02:09:57 You know what this is? Fart sniffing. That's what this is. It's what? Fart sniffing. They're sniffing each other's farts. This is nasty and then offer themselves without being asked a citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power

Starting point is 02:10:11 what it can do end quote in this instance mbc news either wittingly or unwittingly is teaching election deniers that what they can do stretches well beyond appearing on our air in interviews to peddle lies about the sanctity and integrity of our elections, which Ronna McDaniels did yesterday. Meet the press. Can you say as you sit here today, did Joe Biden win the election fair and square? He won. He's the legitimate president. Fair and square, he won. It's certified. It's done.

Starting point is 02:10:42 But I do think, Kristen, let me just say something. Why has it taken you until now to be able to say that? I'm going to push back a little because I do think it's fair to say there were problems in 2020. And to say that does not mean he's not the legitimate president. Now wait for it. Here we go.

Starting point is 02:11:00 But we've also said to election deniers it's not just they can do that on our airwaves but that they can do that as one of us, as badge-carrying employees of NBC News, as paid contributors to our sacred airwaves. I have that in one of my clips, too. Our sacred airwaves. You're on cable, lady. Our sacred airwaves. You're on cable you're on cable lady our sacred airwaves you're on dying cable everyone's cutting the cord with you oh my oh my oh yeah i love the sacred airwaves sacred airwaves yeah how about that uh everyone get the vax sacred airwaves

Starting point is 02:11:41 okay well since i'll just blow right into Trump here. Well, I want to play my Jesse clips because they explain it a little better. How many do you have? I hate the Jesse stories. Jesse Weller has got his presentation.

Starting point is 02:12:01 It sucks. It's decent here. Rona won. You don't have Rona won. Oh. Oh, fiasco. Is that the one? Okay.

Starting point is 02:12:15 Rona McDaniel's out. NBC just announced they're firing the former RNC chairwoman after one day on the job. I'm banning him after this. I'm banning Jesse Walton from our airwaves. That's point three Scaramucci from our sacred airwaves. Chairman Cesar Conde just sent out a memo to employees that reads, I want to personally apologize to our team members who felt we let them down. We will redouble our efforts to seek voices that represent different parts of the political spectrum. The talent is already taking a victory lap.

Starting point is 02:12:51 I still feel like a little, it always feels wrong to talk about things, you know, in the company. I think it's a show of respect for the people who work at this company. You know, it's not about hiring a Republican. It's not even about hiring somebody who has Trump ties. This was a really specific case because of Ms. McDaniels

Starting point is 02:13:09 and her involvement in the election interference stuff. And I'm grateful that our leadership was willing to do that. I think that's the bold, strong, resilient thing. Oh, resilient. So NBC brass did a 180 after the talent revolted. The people who were involved in hiring Romney McDaniel, they don't know the Nixon rule. No one close to the crimes. This is about truth versus lies.

Starting point is 02:13:41 Service to the country versus service to one man committed to toppling our democratic system. But we've also said election deniers. It's not just they can do that on our airwaves, but that they can do that as one of us, as badge carrying employees of NBC News, as paid contributors to our sacred airwaves. You wouldn't hire a pickpocket to work as a TSA screener.

Starting point is 02:13:57 So I find the decision to put her on the payroll inexplicable. This is what our news media has become. They're reporting on other news media. It is great. It's, it's,

Starting point is 02:14:09 it's atrocious. And by the way, these clips are better than the ones you provided. Cause it's got Rachel in there. Oh, that's so much. We have a double band. We have the band,

Starting point is 02:14:18 Jesse Waller. Plus. And Rachel McDaniels. All of them. The second was a kicker ronald mcdaniel tells fox that she still hasn't heard anything from nbc she learned she was getting fired by reading it in the media and now she's looking for a lawyer and her agency that walked her into this gig, CAA, just dropped her. What? Now there's information for you. Yeah, well, I will agree. The way CAA walked her into the deal and then fired her? What kind of representatives is that?

Starting point is 02:14:57 Is that a true story? Do we know that for a fact? Well, yes. And do you know that most news people uh have an agent and it's uta universal talent agents agency who manage the talent according to i believe what stories need to be um massaged by whom and where and they you know, this, Laura Logan was telling me about this, that, you know, her agent would be talking to her boss at CBS and the agent would be, oh, she's perfect to go to Afghanistan.

Starting point is 02:15:37 These, this is underreported, underinvestigated. The talent agencies have a lot of power, and it's unchecked. Didn't this crop up in a recent strike against some of these guys by one of the writers guilds or somebody that said that these agents were having too much power? Remember that was like five, six years ago? I vaguely remember. We should ask Dana. Dana will let us know. Actually, he would give me a little, yeah, I could get a little information about that.

Starting point is 02:16:06 Who is baby, Ginger Spice's agent? I want to get her agent so I can be one of these Dana movies. I like the idea of these news people being controlled by the agent. This is bull crap. All of them at NBC are with UTA as far as I know. And I hear them talking about it sometimes. You'll have to describe it. Maybe that's the real underlying thing because she was represented by CAA and we couldn't have that.

Starting point is 02:16:28 Well, CAA are the ones who organized the, what was it called? Not Never Again, Enough is Enough, Stop. What was it? Around the Harvey Weinstein thing. Yeah. Melissa thing. Yeah. Melissa Gilbert. Yeah, what's the name of it? What was that movie called?

Starting point is 02:16:49 I'm all over the place. Tell us how famous it was. We can't remember. Well, they suck at doing the real work. What was the name of that? Me Too. The Me Too movement. Me Too movement.

Starting point is 02:17:00 But there was another one. They had a... It's not Melissa Gilbert. That's horrible. She's a little... puss*cat hats. No, no, no, no, no. They had it at the Oscars.

Starting point is 02:17:12 They were all wearing t-shirts. Oh, yeah. And what was the name? What was it? Rose McGowan talked about it. I'm with her now. No, no. Time's up. Time's up. it time's up time's up and and who was that that that actress who is married to a caa agent uh time's up there's more than one no but it was important. Tallulah Bankhead.

Starting point is 02:17:46 Not even close. I don't know. Not even close. I'm thinking about it now. We'll get to it. Anyway. You're just hoping the chat room comes up with it. I know.

Starting point is 02:17:55 I'm waiting for it. Come on, trolls. What are you doing? What are you doing? Time's Up was the one. And there's some actress. And she was very important. And she was leading this and then it kind of failed

Starting point is 02:18:09 and then everyone sunk away into the background. These things always flop. Yeah. Alyssa Milano. There it is. Thank you, Charles. Oh, Alyssa Milano. My goodness.

Starting point is 02:18:19 Yeah, thank you, Clip Custodian. Anyway, moving right along. Meanwhile, you get off on me for bringing dead eclipses and here you go off the deep end with this kind of detail that's this is celebrity news this should be very very weak comeback devorek very weak cry harder meanwhile uh trump media and technology group djt stock ticker sword sword sword it's now uh what are we at now six almost 62 dollars yeah i think it hit 75 at one point and dropped back to 56 let me see i have it 71 20 um was the high i believe and uh yeah now And now it's, today it's about, it's $61.96.

Starting point is 02:19:07 So that's working perfectly, perfectly for Orange Man Bad. But we got to take it one step further. This is my favorite. This morning, ahead of his criminal hush money trial, former President Trump is under a new gag order. Prohibited from making public statements about witnesses, court staff and jurors in the case concerning his alleged payment to p*rn actress Stormy Daniels. He's a Democrat judge. He wants to do that because they're all trying to damage Trump as much as possible. The gag order still allows Trump to criticize the judge and district attorney. The trial begins in three weeks, but another deadline

Starting point is 02:19:45 looms closer. Trump has eight days to post a $175 million bond in his civil fraud case. A big day on Wall Street yesterday could help him with his financial challenges. Shares in Trump's media company rose 16% on their first day of trading. His stake in the company is now worth more than $4.5 billion. This company is now valued at about 1,000 times its annual revenue. It really doesn't make any business sense. Unlike every AI company, every bull crap company we've seen in the past 30 years, of course it doesn't make sense.

Starting point is 02:20:22 We stand today. Trump likely won't be able to cash out, though, till later this year. See, this is the biggest lie I've ever heard. And they're all doing it. Oh, he has a lockup. He can't sell. Even the clinical professor of marketing was spouting this bull crap. Anybody who has a $4 billion stake can easily get half a billion dollar collar.

Starting point is 02:20:45 Do you want to explain collar so everyone knows what we're talking about? Yeah, collar is an off-the-book sale of the asset to somebody else, some person or entity that gives you the money in advance. I don't know why it's called a collar. I should know. Well, because it's a collar around your neck. But the board, we know this too, the board can grant him

Starting point is 02:21:09 the ability to sell the stock tomorrow or at least sell $150 million worth of it tomorrow, which is not that big of a stake. It won't sink the thing if they want to. And he's the guy that keeps the thing in check. It's him. It's his name. If he went to the board and asked for that, you'd think they'd say no?

Starting point is 02:21:29 That's the dumbest thing. Forget the caller. Yeah. There's no way they wouldn't say no. They'd say, sure, here. Here's your lockup is over. Yeah, exactly. Oh, but he can't sell it.

Starting point is 02:21:45 How's he going to get... You know what? He's got a new gambit. I love it, and I'm buying me one. It's annual revenue. It really doesn't make any business sense from where we stand today. Trump likely won't be able to cash out, though,

Starting point is 02:21:56 till later this year. To raise money even faster, he's now selling Bibles. All Americans need a Bible in their home, and I have many. It's my favorite book. It's a lot of people's favorite book. We must make America pray again.

Starting point is 02:22:12 The so-called God Bless the USA Bible sells for $59.99. It's huge. It's a great book. You know, the funny, you know, actually, one of the more charming aspects of Trump is you just cannot get him out of huckster mode if he sees an opportunity. I'm buying one. This is fantastic. Are you kidding me? All these huckster things he's done, including the phony bills, the $2 bill, all the rest of it, the coins, it's all collectible.

Starting point is 02:22:43 It's ultimately collectible to political memorabilia people. Oh, I wish I could have gotten those sneakers. Oh, the sneakers, yeah. Oh, I know, guys. They came in a little high. Oh, they only made $1,000. I know guys who were willing to lay down $10,000. Like, I need these sneakers.

Starting point is 02:23:00 I need these sneakers. Yeah, that was another one. Yeah, no, you can't, you know, everything from Trump's stakes to Trump University, and they always try to slam him for this stuff, but this is a guy who is the American, the classic American guy who's just trying to make money any way he can. He'll do it nickel and dime it or billions.

Starting point is 02:23:19 Make America Pray Again is the best slogan. Unbelievable. I love it. I want that Bible. It's the most popular book. It's a huge book. It's a great book. I read this book.

Starting point is 02:23:31 I read this book all the time. It's a great book. I got them all over my house, I think he said. I got books. You can't not love it. You're right. We are gaudy. That's who we are as Americans.

Starting point is 02:23:46 Face it. We're not like commie socialists. We love this stuff. Deep in our hearts, we love this. I think also every immigrant who comes into America is like, is this a great country or what? This guy is selling Bibles. Come on. It's awesome.

Starting point is 02:24:04 And, of course, it flies in the face of this little report christian nationalism is a cultural framework that idealizes and advocates for the close fusion of a very particular expression of christianity with american civic life it does include those orthodox and traditional beliefs of the historic Christian faith. But what it also includes are a number of cultural elements. These cultural elements are a desire for traditionalist social policies to be central to the society. It also has a desire for strict authoritarian social control. We want Trump to be the dictator, to change politics forever.

Starting point is 02:24:49 We also see another cultural element is a desire for strict ethno-racial boundaries. For example, an overwhelming majority of Christian nationalists believe in replacement theory, a conspiracy that claims white Americans and Europeans are being deliberately replaced by non-white immigrants. Many Christian nationalists also see black Americans as inherently more violent, thus justifying police brutality. Deeming a certain ethno-religious group as having the only rightful claim to being American

Starting point is 02:25:15 is known by some as white Christian nationalism. And many see it as a threat to American democracy. One of Trump's close allies, the Center for Renewing America think tank, has already forged policy plans for the second term, aligning with this far-right idea. With a statement on the CRA's website reading, our mission is to renew a consensus of America

Starting point is 02:25:36 as a nation under God. Oh no! Oh no! Oh no! We can't have that! One nation under God, indivisibleisible no what are they trying to do i don't know they're trying to screw us horrible idea i got uh did you see this boots on the ground from uh our our fellow ham november 7 delta romeo kilo no i did not you can read it yes he's david he is the arizona state communications coordinator for the convention

Starting point is 02:26:06 of states which we talked about and uh because you are you you were very against this idea then i'm all for it and oh yeah i saw it come through but i had not read it i'll read it because it's it's interesting he said i want to weigh in about the convention of states i have my boots firmly planted on the ground in this department once again proving we are the best podcast in the universe with the best producers it's it is unbelievable considering the lousy donations we've been getting recently that we have this kind of access yeah and we don't have to hire anybody for this kind of access todd i've been a volunteer for the Convention of States for eight years,

Starting point is 02:26:46 and I'm currently the Arizona State Communications Coordinator. I've worked tirelessly to correct the perception, John, that the Convention of States is seeking to change the U.S. Constitution. Nothing could be further from the truth, as we want to simply propose amendments to the Constitution and stick to the three subjects of term limits, fiscal restraints, and curbing federal overreach.

Starting point is 02:27:10 We are already past the halfway point to call a convention as 19 states have already adopted resolutions. A total of 34 is needed to call a convention, although John thinks this is an unorganized pipe dream. Although John thinks this is an unorganized pipe dream, we are actually a well-organized group of regular people volunteering part of our own time, talent, and treasure to something that can positively change the country in a desperately needed way. It's been a long road to get to this point, especially since a lot of people cling to the fear that this will jeopardize the Constitution. It will not, and what they don't know is that this country has a history of state conventions. We still use them today to negotiate water rights. Mischaracterizing the movement as a constitutional convention when it's really an amendment-proposing convention is what the enemies of the people do. That's me.

Starting point is 02:28:06 You're an enemy of the people, John. I know that neither of you are enemies of the people do. That's me. You're an enemy of the people, John. I know that neither of you are enemies of the people. Woos. You woosed out. But felt it was necessary to bring this to your attention so that you guys could continue to be informed at the highest level of information. It is also my duty to do so. Thank you both for your own tireless efforts

Starting point is 02:28:21 for the cause of liberty. I'll catch you in the morning, 73s. November 7, Delta, Romeo Kilo. There you go. There you go. So now you know. All right. I appreciate that kind of note.

Starting point is 02:28:32 Yeah, it's a great note. And I'm all for this Constitution, Convention of States. Let's see how it goes. I got halfway there. Halfway there. Oh, goodness. The new got cyber attack laws laws clip which is kind of interesting i also have a george galloway tirade in front of parliament which i thought was decent let's do

Starting point is 02:28:52 that one first and then the cyber clip okay george galloway now he's the commie no no no you're thinking another guy uh galloway yeah galloway won his district, and he's, isn't he a socialist? He's a commie? I think he's a commie. Well, he could be, but he's a commie in the same way that Claire's a commie. This is a three-minute clip? What? This is a three-minute clip.

Starting point is 02:29:19 It looks mis- Shouldn't be. It looks mis-clipped, too. Let me see. It looks misclipped, too. Let me see. The truth is that our country is in very real danger of falling into the trap of Mussolini, going around the world threatening people with Germany's army.

Starting point is 02:29:41 Our politicians go around the world threatening people with America's army. But there's a big change coming, Madam Deputy Speaker. They don't like it on either side of the aisle. But President Trump is coming back in November and he doesn't much fancy their NATO. He doesn't intend to send American soldiers to die for Kupyansk or for the Zelensky regime in Kiev. He has no intention whatever of continuing their war in Ukraine. And I heard a member, senior member of the House say, if America withdraws from NATO, we are going to have to increase our contribution to 5%, 6%, maybe 7% of GDP. These people seriously imagine that they'll continue NATO without the United States of America?

Starting point is 02:30:36 What kind of NATO would that? It would really be Gilbert and Sullivan. Unless, of course, we're going to devote not 50 billion of our public treasure, but hundreds of billions of our public treasure on defence. Well, have any of these people seen the state of the public realm in Britain? Have they seen the state of the National Health Service? Have they seen the state of the National Health Service? Have they seen the state of our streets, our public buildings, our public transport? Have they seen the wage packets being earned in this country? Have they seen pensioner poverty? Have they seen fuel poverty in action?

Starting point is 02:31:22 Have they met people that have to choose between eating and heating? And these fools want to spend not 50 billion, but hundreds of billions on weapons of war that we're going to fight with an army that could fit into Villa Park. 70,000 soldiers can fit into a single football stadium. And he was also on Big Brother, I think, wasn't he? I don't know. Yeah, I think he was on the Big Brother show. I thought it was a decent rant.

Starting point is 02:32:01 I have, yeah. You know, they're predicting, Everyone's getting ready for Trump. It's like they're getting ready for Trump. So Trump, I don't see how he's not going to get in. I mean, they're not going to let Biden in again with the Paris woman. I have boots on the ground from UZA. From where? That's our producer's name, UZA.

Starting point is 02:32:21 Ah, UZA. Regular troops on the ground from france germany and poland have arrived by rail and air to cherkasy south of kiev a substantial force no numbers have been leaked yet they are being housed in schools for all practical practical purposes this is a nato force let the games begin mr kinzal's business cards will be in great demand wherever that is so yeah so we've got nato troops on the ground and everyone's talking conscription everywhere going to war wow i gotta get christina out of there i would say i gotta get her out of there. But she's not going to get conscripted. Well, not yet. But, you know, they'll have...

Starting point is 02:33:07 Look, they took... Young girls are now fighting for Ukraine. Young Ukrainian girls. Yeah. Well, we're going to do everything we can to kill everyone who's Ukrainian. That's what we're doing. Yeah, so we can move in. All right, cyber...

Starting point is 02:33:24 But Cargill can move in. We're not moving in. Cargill's already... No, we need Cargill workers. That's true. Car doing now. Yeah, so we can move in. All right, cyber. But Cargill can move in. We're not moving. Cargill's already. No, we need Cargill workers. That's true. Cargill's already there. Cargill executives. Exactly.

Starting point is 02:33:31 And we need to steal that Russian money so we bolster our SWIFT system. Good idea. All right, cyber attack laws news before we take our break here. Homeland Security will soon be requiring companies working in critical infrastructure to report cyber attacks to the government in a timely manner. Otherwise, the company could face fines. More from NPR's Jenna McLaughlin.

Starting point is 02:33:52 In 2022, Congress passed a law that would require owners and operators of U.S. critical infrastructure to report cyber incidents to the Department of Homeland Security cybersecurity agency, CISA. That includes everything from the power grid to oil and gas pipelines. Now, CISA is releasing an initial version of those specific rules or a notice of

Starting point is 02:34:11 proposed rulemaking. Companies will have 72 hours to share cyber incidents and 24 hours after making a ransom payment to a cyber criminal group. CISA expects over 300,000 organizations will be accountable to the new rules. If companies fail to comply, they could be subpoenaed or referred to the Justice Department for potential civil action. The government believes these rules are vital during a time of rampant cyber attacks against U.S. companies. Yeah. So the government got sick of waiting to have this government corporate, you know, agreement that was going on during the Obama administration. We discussed it all the time. And they're, yeah, we can keep,

Starting point is 02:34:49 you know, it's proprietary. You know, unless you know everything we're up to. And now they said, okay, we waited long enough. We're just going to pass a law, a rule, and you're going to have to do it, or you're going to get fined big time after 72 hours if you don't join, you know, a CISA, this bullcrap operation that's not

Starting point is 02:35:06 going to do anything anyway this is a this is a horrible uh actually i have two more quick things to discuss before we break um they have you heard this outfit allsides.com sounds like a rainbow news outfit to me but they had they declare now based upon gallup polling that lgbtq plus voters will actually decide the 2024 presidential election because over the past decade voters identifying as lgbtq plus have more than doubled what's more this group is growing the lgbtq plus demographic is now a larger voting block than the suburban white mothers that pundits love to discuss on election night wow this is so you know what what's happening is kids are afraid not to say oh yeah i'm queer oh yeah i'm queer i don't they're afraid to say they oh, yeah, I'm queer. Oh, yeah. I'm queer. They're afraid to say they're straight.

Starting point is 02:36:07 But if you really think, the Williams Institute recently noted this increase as well, reporting that among younger Americans, 14.9% in the 18 to 24 and 8.8% in the 25 to 34 cohorts identify as LGBTQ+. And what does that mean well now we go to sarah the gentile who says hi adam and john i'm a professor at a private university in the south hello once again best producers in the universe i wonder if she's a clinical professor professor at a private university in the South and adjunct at a Big Ten university in the Midwest. Every spring at my Big Ten appointment, all faculty have to complete the Title IX training.

Starting point is 02:36:55 These are usually 45-minute training modules on mandated reporting, assault on campus, and how we are to help students experiencing those situations, etc. I've completed scores of these over the years, and they've always been the same. The same narrator, same situation, same videos. This year, however, there's a notable difference. The gays are gone. Take, for example, this statistic shared in one of the modules. Quote, 13% of students reported non-consensual sexual contact by physical force or inability to consent. Rates were significantly higher for women and the TGQN students. This is a new acronym, TGQN, which stands for transgender women, transgender men, non-binary, genderqueer, gender questioning, or gender not listed.

Starting point is 02:37:49 You guys called it months ago. The gays are gone. There was no reference to lesbians or gays. They've been completely erased. Not one mention in this entire training. This was not the case last spring when I had to take the same training. Whatever starts in the university will always trickle down and out.

Starting point is 02:38:09 So expect to see TGQN soon enough. We'll keep an eye out for it. We had that clip a couple of shows ago with the girl who was bitching, the lesbian TikToker who was bitching about what's going on. This basically mirrors what she was saying. Let me tell you, lesbian TikToker who was bitching about what's going on and this basically mirrors what she was saying.

Starting point is 02:38:27 Let me tell you, the gay guys I know are, they're angry about this stuff. They are pissed off. They are like, this is insane. They should be. And you know what? The gays can save us. The gays. The gays will save us. Yes, they

Starting point is 02:38:44 will. And in a rare moment of camaraderie the gays and the lesbians will actually join together which is not that would be rare but they've got to they've got to save themselves unbelievable and with that happy news i'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the convention of states ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and the dames and the knights out there. And all the gays, in the morning to you.

Starting point is 02:39:19 Hello, trolls. Hold on. Hold up your hands. Let me see. All right. We've gone hands. Let me see. All right. We've gone up a little bit here. We had 1552 in the last troll count we did on a Thursday. 1576 is your troll countage today.

Starting point is 02:39:34 And we are very happy to have our trolls. They're in the troll room at trollroom.io. Or you can join them by going to podcastapps.com and getting a modern podcast app. Now, when I tweet, we got a new thing called episodes.fm. So when I tweet out the link to the show and you click on that link, it brings up a list of 30 apps. And right there, you can choose which app you want to use. Yeah. This is another podcasting 2.0 innovation.

Starting point is 02:40:03 They just keep on coming. Unbelievable. Well, it is. It is because these are people who care about freedom of speech and make sure that you're not stifled by Silicon Valley. You will be. Well, we won't be. There's no way.

Starting point is 02:40:19 We are unstoppable. Now, of course, we're poor, but we're unstoppable, and we're very proud of it. Also, you get updated within 90 seconds of a podcast posting its new episode, certainly this one and other smart podcasts. But there's hundreds of thousands of them who are using the new system, all part of Podcasting 2.0. We are a value-for-value podcast, which we started. Is it going to be 17 years in October? Yeah, any minute.

Starting point is 02:40:50 Wow, that's unbelievable. Hey, isn't your birthday soon too? My birthday's coming up on April 5th. We'll be looking forward to that. It'll be the day after the wedding. Yeah, we're taking that day off. Which is April 4th. Which is a Thursday, correct? It's a Thursday. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:41:05 Why is she getting married on a Thursday? She's not getting married in the church? They're getting married. They're getting independent. I think another universal life church marriage, as far as I can tell. So, uh... Universal life church? Yeah, I know. I'm a minister. I'm a minister. You're a minister.

Starting point is 02:41:21 I'm a minister of the universal life church. I'm a doctor of divinity. And well, you, this boss above boss, always, always. So I do want to mention that when we get to the donation segment, I want to mention in advance, do not read the first name on there and give it to me because that name should be anonymous, but it's listed on there and it would be a bad thing to say. We don't want to have anything bad happen here. So I will not, I will not. Just pass it to me. And I'll read from his note. I'll pass it to you. Let me just see.

Starting point is 02:41:48 The very first one? Yeah, the very first one. The one right at the top. Okay. That's got no note. Yeah, I got it. I will not mention it at all. Blank it out.

Starting point is 02:41:58 So value for value means that we are not part of the podcast industrial complex, which is not doing so well, actually. You know, they're having problems. It has its moments. It has its moments. Not today, but it has its moments. Well, and Bill Maher is about to make the biggest mistake of his life. No.

Starting point is 02:42:18 Yes, he started a podcast network. Oh, please. Yes, yes. Well, there goes money. I guess he's making too much money. He has to throw it away. Yeah, so it's going to be the... Podcast Network.

Starting point is 02:42:31 Yes. Gee, I've never heard of such a thing. The Club Random Studios Network. And he will be hosting... He seeks to host podcasts built on an idea of freedom of expression. Hmm. Okay. And he's starting with that ESPN lady.

Starting point is 02:42:51 He's hired her. Who? Sage Steele. She was for ESPN SportsCenter. After there was some free speech lawsuits. I don't remember what that was about. But anyway, we would be perfect for that network if we thought they would work. But they don't.

Starting point is 02:43:11 They don't. And I'll tell you why. Because you get into the network and it was like, oh, it's great. You know, you're going to get publicity. You'll be a part of Bill Maher's system. Oh, great, great, great. And then all the advertising goes to Bill Maher's show. Or maybe one other, you know, one other show.

Starting point is 02:43:27 If the show gets popular, yeah. Yeah. This happens. We've witnessed this, both witnessed it. What I witnessed is with your network, you're the one that was doing a network, even though you now decry it. Yes, I do. And I also see it on Leo's network. These are networks.

Starting point is 02:43:41 I decry it because- Yours is a little more aggressive. I decry it because we raised $65 million and nobody made any money. Hello. And all the way, the kicker is, and you probably wouldn't say this as easy as I can, everybody complained. All the time. How come I'm not getting, how come I'm not making more money? How come they're emphasizing this and not that?

Starting point is 02:44:01 Every one of you had all these famous podcasters working there and they all complained and they didn't complain a little they complained all the time yeah and that's what bill maher's gonna get yeah that's why we had it's aggravating complaints that's why you have a podcast relations manager the worst job in the company women what was it richard was his name richard i forgot and for a while that we had aaron aaron was running it and he he gave up he just like i gotta leave this job you couldn't pay anybody enough to deal with the aggravation and the crying that goes on which is why these podcasts and eventually they they unionize and then you're completely screwed oh then you're

Starting point is 02:44:45 your host you might as well shutter it shut it shut it down shutter the ringer they just unionized the ringer it's all over it doesn't work you cannot monetize the network just take it from me spotify spent a billion dollars so uh we didn't get any of that goodness of course i mean we should have honestly we someone should have at least hired us for a couple mil and then fired us. But no, no. You know why? Because we speak truth. Truth to power.

Starting point is 02:45:14 That's why. Are we speaking truth to power, John? I don't know how much power is listening to this show, but we're speaking truth to somebody. Somebody's out there. Oh, they're speaking truth to somebody. Somebody's out there. It's like, oh, they're speaking truth to me. All right. So instead, we opted for the value for value model, which is actually pretty good if you can keep your costs low,

Starting point is 02:45:33 i.e. we don't have Neumann mics. You know, we run the whole thing on a $500 Rode mixer. Neumann mics. And that little B, what's that little B-Link computer. No, I use a NUC. We run this thing on an Intel NUC, an old one.

Starting point is 02:45:54 We run this on a B-Link, a NUC, and a $500 road mixer. Okay? That's a Scarlett. That's what we run this thing on. And I got a couple panels on the wall. That's what we run this thing on. And I got a couple of panels on the wall. All right. That's how we run it.

Starting point is 02:46:08 And luckily we have people who provide value back to us when they say, you know, I got some value from the show. I laughed. I cried. I got mad. I learned something. I got it. I learned something about the markets. I could make some money there.

Starting point is 02:46:21 Save my life. Hello, COVID. Lots of stuff. People say, you know what what i'm sending some value back time talent or treasure all three of them are valid so we have people running servers people do you know what people doing art for us let's talk about that for a second we have artists who continuously love to make artwork while we're doing the show live this it really is one of the coolest things and and actually i was on oh you're gonna get asked i was on the union of the unwanted

Starting point is 02:46:50 you have to go on this show have you heard of this podcast but it's a union of the am i unwanted are you unwanted who's unwanted well that's why i always was against this show i don't want to i'm not unwanted i'm very wanted i'm loved loved. Yeah, everyone wants you. However, this is in essence it's a Zoom call with like 12 or 13 people and they all have podcasts. Sam Tripoli, remember the guy who I

Starting point is 02:47:15 called the sidekick and then people were like, I'm not donating because you slam other podcasters. By the way, Sam and Adam, we're texting all the time now. We're buds. You guys should be buds. You know, Graham was on there from Graymerica.

Starting point is 02:47:33 He's angling for my job. Let's face it. Who, Sam? Yeah, oh yeah. Oh, that's an interesting idea. I like that. I like that. Oh, all right.

Starting point is 02:47:43 Good luck with that. John, I said on the show, I said without John or without Adam, good luck with that. John, I said on the show, I said without John or without Adam, there is no agenda. It's just not, there is no, and there's no,

Starting point is 02:47:52 no pun. Yeah, I know that this is without either one of us, the show doesn't work. It would just have to end. So don't die on me yet, old man. And I'll do the same because there's a lot of, a lot of show left in us until 2028.

Starting point is 02:48:05 Then we definitely have to end it. We can go off our merry ways. I'm the publishing company running good, well by then. We have a kennel. I mean, what more do you need? I don't know what I'm going to do, but yeah. What should I do? You got plenty of ideas.

Starting point is 02:48:25 But none of them make money. That should I do? You got plenty of ideas. I got it. But none of them make money. That's the problem. You can monetize. Podcasting 2.0 is great, but it's zero money. It's just, it's for a legacy for the children. That's the only reason I do it. Anyway, these guys, all of them have their own podcasts, like the Liberty Lockdown. I mean, it's all great podcasts and they all listen to

Starting point is 02:48:47 no agenda they love us they love you and they want to have you on the show and i would i would recommend you do it i could do that show sure i think you'll really enjoy it i had a good time i i wasn't sure what to expect and i had a good time. Anyway, back to value for value. Many of them use value for value. They love it. Yeah, well, they should. Yes. And so they're all poor, but they love it.

Starting point is 02:49:14 Yeah, well, that's because sometimes the email goes astray. People have to understand the email is really important. There's so many podcasts and things you can pay attention to. I mean, when Diddy is in your algo, sometimes people forget we have a podcast and we need to be supported. And then when the algo is, because that's what it is, it's, oh, oh, he used the word killing. Well, throw that to junk.

Starting point is 02:49:39 Get rid of that. It probably went to promotions, which is even funner. A couple went to promotions that shouldn't have. We want to thank Darren, who provides a lot. Yeah, we're stunned by this, by the way. A lot of time and talent that Darren provides to the show. He does the Rock and Roll pre-show before every single Thursday and Sunday's broadcast. I'm surprised you didn't say that the Korean Dvorak in the corner there was too small.

Starting point is 02:50:02 It was. We talked about this for quite a bit. No, but we didn't talk about that. You never mentioned it. Okay, okay. You give Darren a lot of leeway. He's Darren O'Neill. His music taste sucks, but Darren is a good guy. We loved him.

Starting point is 02:50:18 Now, okay, so we chose Darren's Isis K, but the only thing I didn't like about it was the hand grenade. I was more distracted. I didn't mind the hand grenade at all. It was Isis K but the only thing I didn't like about it was the hand grenade. I was more distracted. I didn't mind the hand grenade at all. It was Isis K which is like a special K packaging. Classic no agenda spoof art. We love those.

Starting point is 02:50:34 33% more psyops works for me and then the hand grenade. Now other things that we looked at I really liked Scaramanga's meat food. Yeah, I liked it too, but again, this time it was way too small. It was too small, and then as you embiggened it, you see some Chinese, some Asian cook.

Starting point is 02:50:56 It turned out to be racist, yes. It says really good. We were okay with the racism, actually, but you couldn't read it from afar and was newcomer food. Well, we weren't that good with it. We almost picked it. And we said, no,

Starting point is 02:51:10 we're not going with very good. And some giant laughing Chinese guy, or should I have, I put it properly, a laughing Chinaman. I'm still laughing. That's not going to work. I'm still laughing when I see it.

Starting point is 02:51:24 I'm like, it was good. It's very funny to work I'm still laughing when I see it I'm like it was good it's very funny to look at we also we looked at Nestworks Toshiba

Starting point is 02:51:30 laptop which was it was in the running for sure and honestly I think that the I actually used that

Starting point is 02:51:38 for the pre-stream art this morning people stopped making pre-stream art they used to do cool art for me to to post when we go live.

Starting point is 02:51:48 And they stopped doing that for some reason. I don't know why. Well, I did use, I will say. Yeah, I know what you used. I used, well, I used the most compelling piece that was on here, which was an AI-generated art piece. A butt. It's a girl who's, she's the kind of woman that does exist

Starting point is 02:52:05 in the real world that would have nothing to do with anybody who does this show or listens to this show. You can just tell. And Comic Strip Blogger did it. And he needs to get some... He's gotten it down pretty well to create this sort of thing.

Starting point is 02:52:21 But it didn't help either. Comic Strip Butt. There's another reason why the newsletter got sent to spam. Blatant sexual. That was not in the newsletter. It was just in the post. Oh, okay. Well, still.

Starting point is 02:52:38 Still. Do better. Now you're making it up. What else was there? Whale poop stuff. Nah stuff i don't know why fat lady all of a sudden some ai fat lady it's not fat she's not fat that was you know what a fat lady looks is that that's not what we're thinking about it's a little very odd basically you know five pounds overweight is not fat i don't think anything else really did it. No, I think that covers it.

Starting point is 02:53:08 Well, we did talk a bit about the No Agenda Racing Team car battery. Talked about that, but no, that really didn't. Yeah, it wasn't compelling. Nesworks is on a downward spiral. Tina just texted me. She's in a gown and she says, I'm ready to meet Trump. She's at Mar-a-Lago tonight.

Starting point is 02:53:32 You know, Trump is in New York at the cop's funeral. No, I know. He's not there. So he's not going to be at Mar-a-Lago. And meanwhile, Trump is going to the cop's funeral and Biden is going to a donation thing.

Starting point is 02:53:47 A fundraiser. A fundraiser. He's not even going to see the dead policeman. And I got a number anyway. I got a number out of this. I got a couple of numbers. Ronna McDaniel is going to be paid $300,000. That was her fee for MSNBC.

Starting point is 02:54:02 But for $100,000 at the fundraiser, you can get your picture taken with Biden, Obama, and Clinton in the same shot. So they're going to set up a photo booth. The three of them will be there. You go in, $100,000 check, boom, your picture taken. If anyone sees one of those pictures on the wall somewhere,

Starting point is 02:54:20 the guy's an idiot. Okay. Anyway, Tina will have boots on the ground from Mar-a-Lago for me. I've never been. It's big. Do you know who's at her table?

Starting point is 02:54:36 Yeah, you told us already, but tell us again because I forgot. Just so you know, that was an off-air conversation. Oh, I don't remember that. Yeah, James O'Keefe. Oh, that's right, yeah. That should be interesting.

Starting point is 02:54:49 Yeah. I wonder if he's going to be wearing his gay disguise. He's going to be filming it. I'm very uncomfortable with what he's doing. It feels so mean. You know, he's psyop- Busting poor, yeah, poor hapless- He's honeypotting these poor gay guys

Starting point is 02:55:05 in cell gay guys homely gay guys homely in cell gay guys looking for any attention whatsoever that's not good no no it's not

Starting point is 02:55:15 yeah so anyway and he's just short of wearing one of those old Groucho Marx mustaches and a phony nose exactly that's what he looks like

Starting point is 02:55:24 anyway thank you very much Darren O'Neill. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the art. We have over 30,000 pieces there. Not bad for 1,646 episodes. We have hundreds, hundreds of artists. You can join them. You can open up an account at noagendaartgenerator.com. Thank you to all of the artists.

Starting point is 02:55:44 We appreciate everything that you do. But only one can be chosen, obviously. up an account at no agenda art generator.com thank you to all of the artists for all we appreciate everything that you do but only one can be chosen obviously now we go to the treasure part we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers first these are 200 and above and john's going to kick it off yeah we have a not necessarily perfect anonymous guy is in Texas, $420.69, but I will read his note. Starts off, he's kind of one of these guys. What are you up to, weirdos? Oh, I know exactly. Well, he's at $420.69, so okay.

Starting point is 02:56:19 Yeah, $420.69, hello. I'm not complaining. Just donated to the show, but I saw on your Yankee-looking site that you mentioned my name on the show if I donate over 50. I do not want to be named. Now, this is a guy who doesn't want to be named, but he sent an email in over the years where he's named. Okay. No need for recognizing a mooch who had been listening since I first heard Adam on the Joe Rogan experience

Starting point is 02:56:47 a while ago. There you go. Big fan of the show and appreciate you guys. You guys make me laugh. Stay gay. Okay. Anonymous.

Starting point is 02:57:00 Anonymous. Yeah, that guy. Appreciate you. No jingles? Nothing else there? No, that was it. We move on to Brandon Jansen, Parts Unknown, 403.33. He has a long handwritten note, but I shall read it.

Starting point is 02:57:14 And by the way, this is another donation that is problematic, like the one we just read, because he had supposedly sent in a certified letter with a donation and never got through. And we went back and forth and back and forth. And finally it came in. And then he writes this unreadable note. I can read it. Okay. If you can read it, you can read it.

Starting point is 02:57:36 Yes. Brandon Johnson. ITM, gents, thank you for your courage. Firstly, everyone listening to this needs to check their conscience and contribute one of the three Ts. Karma will take note and peg you back in kind. Yes. Yeah. I'm speaking from personal experience as my first treasure donation was a show number donation for episode 1601.

Starting point is 02:57:56 I expected nothing in return. By the way, we do the same. We give the value. We expect nothing in return. It comes, but we expect nothing. And we're right. Most of you don't send anything all i asked for from the universe was house selling karma and literally the day that my tithing was accepted we sold our house that morning i woke up seeing threes everywhere so it should come as no surprise it all worked outs are all over if you simply pay attention. Second, please revert

Starting point is 02:58:26 back to my first point. If you value the show and appreciate the insight of our two gracious hosts, Adam and John, then do not take them for granted. All of us producers must contribute time, talent, or treasure to keep this train rolling. Lastly, this completes my knighthood and I would like my name to be Sir Rev. Joseph James plus the 33. No, Joseph James the 33rd. Sir Rev.

Starting point is 02:58:51 Joseph James the 33rd. Please and thank you Blanton's single barrel bourbon at the round table. Okay. Yeah. If I could also humbly request

Starting point is 02:59:04 baby making karma for me and my smoking hot wife of 21 years along with the following jingles oh i didn't see any of this okay donate i got that i got the donate i got the donate sorry this part i wasn't quite ready that's okay. Donate, 33 is the magic number. Okay, magic number, got that one. And little girl yay, my goodness. Okay, and the go podcasting. Okay, well, I think we can do all of that.

Starting point is 02:59:41 Keep up the great work. Gentlemen, Godspeed, sincerely sincerely yours a faithful night uh p.s what does he say here this is kind of a funny note p.s in light of the good news jingle i'd like to share this quote the world isn't getting something or darker i guess the world isn't getting darker the veil sheltering you from reality is being lifted oh all right very nice you've got Donate. Donate. Karma. 33.

Starting point is 03:00:28 That's the magic number. It's the magic number. You know what? Go podcasting! Wow! There we go. And your baby making karma. You've got karma. There you go. All right. Did it all.

Starting point is 03:00:45 Did it all. Did it all. I had one miscue. Sorry about that. Tower Comics. From Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada. 333. The Paris of Canada.

Starting point is 03:00:57 What do I hear in the background over there? Oh. Okay. What you're hearing is they've decided because of the potholes. Oh. Because I later have to go get my new tire. Since you complained about the potholes. No. decided because of the potholes, because I later have to go get my new tire. Since you complained about the potholes, you're fixing them? No, I complained about the potholes. No, what you're hearing is a machine that is shaving the road for repaving.

Starting point is 03:01:20 Oh, so they're fixing the potholes. Locally, they're going to, well, this is not where the potholes are. The potholes that are dangerous are on the freeway. You need to stop complaining. They're fixing it for you. Well, they're making a lot of noise, as you can tell. They are. Anyway, in Alberta, Canada, 333.

Starting point is 03:01:39 It's interesting that we got no classic 333.33 donations on this show. In fact, we only had a total of 43 donations over 50 bucks, which is really low for a Thursday. Yes. And Tower Comics says, thanks for the deconstruction. Can I get a de-douchey? You've been de-douched.

Starting point is 03:02:00 From my buddy Blaze. And you would like an R2-D2 Karma and a jingle Amen Fist Bump. Yeah,2 Karma and a jingle Amen Fist Bump. Yeah, we can do that. Amen Fist Bump. You've got... Karma. Amy Byrne is in Swannona, North Carolina, 333.

Starting point is 03:02:21 She says, thank you for making me laugh when there's so much grim news. By the way, if you've been listening to this podcast the whole way through and you haven't laughed once, never listen again. It is hard. If you don't laugh at least once during the show, then we fail. Really enjoyed Adam's testimony. No bells or karma. All right.

Starting point is 03:02:40 Thank you very much, Amy. That's sweet. That's very sweet. Here we go to Eli. Now we get to Eli the coffee gal. Slips in an ad in Bensonville, Illinois. He's very sly. $212.12.

Starting point is 03:02:51 I would like to credit this donation to Scaramanga. Oh. For his tree lobster art from the last show, which cracked me up. So that's a switch. Gruesome or not. Is that a switcheroo then, or is it just a dedication? No, credit. He says credit. He says credit.

Starting point is 03:03:05 He says credit. So he gets the donation. But he'll, but the plug is coming. I had the pleasure of meeting him at a brewery event where I was selling coffee a few weeks ago. John, you were spot on in the newsletter.

Starting point is 03:03:20 The bridge did fall. Like it was flimsy. Two jingles can summarize this week's bridge collapse. Please play Coincidence, I Think Not, followed by Build Back Better, my wife's favorite jingle. Producers who want coffee with no bitter burnt taste, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your first order. Stay caffeinated, Eli the Coffee Guy. I will say I ran out of Black Rifle this morning,

Starting point is 03:03:50 and so then I picked up one of the Gigawatt packs. I need a little more than I would put in the Black Rifle, but it's good. It keeps me awake and jolly. Coincidence? I think not. For a better life, beyond your freedom, build back better. For someone else. Leora Coronel? Coronel.

Starting point is 03:04:21 Coronel. Nevada City. Is it Nevada City if it's in california or nevada city it's still nevada city 20 oh associate executive producer 21.60 itm gentleman my smoking hot husband gus has been a devoted listener since i hit him in the mouth in 2021 you're a good wife and i'm ashamed to say he still hasn't gotten around to donating. Please dedouche him for his 48th birthday tomorrow, March 29th. You've been dedouched.

Starting point is 03:04:57 Linda Lupatkin comes up, and she's the final associate executive producer on the short list. Wow, short. She's in Lakewood, Colorado, and of course she wants jobs karma, so there's nothing new there. She says for an exceptional resume, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc with a K. Or find Linda Lupatkin,

Starting point is 03:05:18 duch*ess of Jobs and writer of resumes on the producer list. There you go. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And that is it for executive and associate executive producers. As you know, the rules are anything above $200, we will read your note regardless of what it is, as long as we can read it. And it's not too long and it's not too crazy, but we pretty much read them all. Anything under that, we pick and choose where we can. It depends on time.

Starting point is 03:05:49 It depends on what the note is, but if you really want to have it read 200 and above is where you go for your executive and associate executive producer status, which are real credits, go ahead, ask Dana Brunetti, producer of Gran Turismo. Should have been an Oscar winner. I'm glad you saw that movie. I am, too. I loved that movie. I sat there, and I movie. I am too. I loved that movie.

Starting point is 03:06:06 I sat there and I said, Phoebe, that was a great movie. Phoebe's like... She's watching the movie with you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She loves it. You know, dog, I have to mention this. Dogs can see LCD screens.

Starting point is 03:06:19 They never could see a television set. That's right. That's right. LCD screens made all the difference in the dog's life. When dogs started seeing cats, too. And so dogs started watching. And so dogs watch TV now. I know. I know. It's great.

Starting point is 03:06:33 She loves it. But I just especially loved when they show the inside of the cylinders firing. The movie, the special effects and everything, that movie was so well produced and well done. Well shot, too, the director.

Starting point is 03:06:48 And it got, you know, it got, I think it paid out, but it was like, you know. Oh, no, they made Bank up front. It was one big commercial. Oh. Yes, that's true. Come on, Brunetti's no dummy. He's like, hey, by the way, for all the crap. Yeah, you're going to pay me in advance, I'll do anything.

Starting point is 03:07:01 For all the crap I gave him about Fifty Shades of Grey, this really makes up for it. Not in money, but it makes up for it. Anyway, we don't read anything under 50 because people there like to stay anonymous. So $49.99 is always good. Don't add any fees because that will put it up over the 50 and then we might make a mistake. And of course, we want to thank everybody.

Starting point is 03:07:23 And if everybody did this, it would be great if you just take out a sustaining donation which is some kind of regular thing that you automatically have paid and it can be anything you want if if everybody did that we'd be in fat city instead here we are that would be the day short list i like people who idealize the whole situation and think they can do exactly what you described. What's that? Oh, you know, if I got like $500, if I know I only need like 10,000 people to listen to the podcast. And if I charge them each 10 bucks a month.

Starting point is 03:07:55 Oh, yeah, that's perfect. Because at 10 bucks a month, that means that's like over 100. That's a million dollars a year. I'll make a million to a year with 10,000 listeners. Yeah, that's how they always start that's how we started and then with our two dollar donation yeah yeah boy boy did we learn you learn fast yeah we did we learned and newsletters help podcasters if you can get them through um so thank you very much no agenda donations.com is where you can learn more and be a producer no one here is a listener you are a producer of the best podcast in the universe.

Starting point is 03:08:27 John will take us now through the 50 donations. The Highland Craig has started us off from new Brownfels, Texas. Braunfels. Braunfels. Yeah. Whatever the case is, I'm still irked.

Starting point is 03:08:40 182, 18. She has a nice, or she, or he, I think it was a wife that wrote this note. Yeah. She's helping my hubs and I, she says, about COVID.

Starting point is 03:08:49 Nice note from one of the Highland Craigs. Mrs. Craig. Yes. Dwayne Biblo in Calgary, Alberta. No jingles, no karma, of course. 130.03. Baron Surfer, S-I-R-F-E-R, in Shasta Lake, California. Full to the brim, by the way, 123.45.

Starting point is 03:09:13 Hakan Anderson in Portland, Oregon, 105.35. Cole McCormick, birthday boy, first time donating. He needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Cole. Cole McCormick. I know this name. I know Cole.

Starting point is 03:09:32 Cole McCormick. He needs some of his jobs coming at the end. He donated $105.35. All right. Thanks, Cole. Ty Hawker in Higginsville, Missouri. $100. And he says, states reality, outstanding product.

Starting point is 03:09:49 No kidding. Kevin McLaughlin comes in with boobs, 8008. 1646 boob donation. Sir Richard Hufford in Tempe, Arizona, 8008. Happy Easter. Which is coming. Easter Sunday is coming up. Let's bring in a donation.

Starting point is 03:10:05 Maybe we get some good Easter donations coming up for Sunday. Sunday, Sunday. Guess what? We're working on Easter. And we're working on Easter. The High Holy Day. It's one of them. Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 03:10:17 Sir Richard Hufford in Tempe, Arizona, who came in with the OA, as I said. Ryan Antonioti. Anton said. Ryan Antonioti. Antonioti. Antonioti. Antonieti. Antonieti. You don't think it's Antonioti?

Starting point is 03:10:34 Well, it says right there. Oh, he's got his pronunciation. Antonieti. Antonieti. Well, that might be the way you pronounce it. Yeah, I think so. 8-0-0-8 for him. Chris Jossik in Phillipsburg, New Jersey.

Starting point is 03:10:48 Let's see if he's got anything. No. 8-0-0-8. He says he's here for his two favorite boobs. Love you guys. I love you. Mean it. Isn't that cute?

Starting point is 03:10:56 That's cute. Derek Allison in Rock Springs, New York. 8-0-0-8. We got an 8-0-0-8 day. Yeah. And he says Shiloh Leaps is a douchebag. Douchebag!

Starting point is 03:11:11 Let me get that out of the way. Dana Carroll, or Dina Carroll, in Laughlin, Nevada. Laughlin, Nevada, 7227. It's an interesting town. John Hoibor. Ho town. John Hoibor. Hoibor.

Starting point is 03:11:26 Hoibor. Hoibor. Hoibor. Well, one of those names. It means hay farmer. Mr. Hay Farmer, 61-14. Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California, 6-0-0-6, small boobs. Paul Webb in Twickenham, Middlesex, UK, 55-55.

Starting point is 03:11:49 Matthew Golan in Miami, Florida, 55-10. Adrian Christensen, 55. Brian Conger, and I think these are all $50 donations that have been jumped up. Indianapolis, Indiana, 52-72. John Roberts in Yacaipa, California, 5272. Person of Merit Comics, a lot of comic guys today. Columbus, Ohio, 5272. And Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa, 5001. And the following people are $50 donations. Starting with Ami Grohl in Burien, Washington, right outside the airport. John Walter in Wenatchee, Washington.

Starting point is 03:12:28 Fall Line Farm in Columbus, Georgia. Go visit them. Quinorix, Inc. in Brandonton, Florida. He put a note in here and says, John is great. Adam, you too. Okay. Any comments on his sensationalism?

Starting point is 03:12:43 Jack Schofield in Yankee Town, Florida. Shauna Norberg in Seattle, Washington, another Washingtonian. Brian Emenheiser in Lancaster, California. Forrest Scott Brinkley in Christianburg, Virginia. Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon. Michael Elmore in Gastonia, New York. Richard Gardner, who I always think is in New York. John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado.

Starting point is 03:13:11 Zev Green in Teaneck, New Jersey. And last but not least, the good old Brand Family in Placerville, California. I want to thank these people for making the show. 1646, a reality and a winner. I want to thank these people for making the show. 1646, a reality and a winner. Also, we got a note here from, this is from Spartanburg, who will be title changing today to a Baron. He says, I don't know if I ever got my make right to Baron.

Starting point is 03:13:39 Oh, okay. So, no, I guess we missed it. So, we're doing it now. If indeed I'm a Baron, I want to relay my disgust with Adam's lack of appreciation of Poonami for Clip of the Day. Yes. That very well is Clip of the Year, he says. As a baron, I wish to confer Clip of the Day for my territory in your honor. Keep up the great work, and yes, I know, send more money.

Starting point is 03:14:00 James Nittle, clerical change. Oh, that's his name. Please update my name from Spartanburg to Spartanburg. Okay. Baron does. Spell check your words. Spell check works wonders. Dvorak, ha ha, in the morning.

Starting point is 03:14:14 Thank you both for the best podcast in the universe with my latest donation. What? I will say that there's typos in the newsletter on and off. I catch a lot. I missed one. I missed one. I missed one. Well, you missed more than one, but the one that you missed that I missed,

Starting point is 03:14:30 we all missed, is the word shipping was spelled shopping, and everybody and their sister seems to have caught that. The ones that received the email. Yeah, the five guys who received the email all wrote in. Well, people who receive it, read it. That's the good news. Well, hopefully.

Starting point is 03:14:50 With this latest donation, I now qualify as a baron. Since you betrothed my title, I only think it's fair to have the best choice of your remaining lands for you to determine. I'd like for them to come with copious concubines to help maintain order in the territory. I hope the double credit deal isn't the extra strategy. Keep up the great work.

Starting point is 03:15:06 I love the value for value model. Not a bad concept from a couple of mofos. Oh, beautiful. Thank you very much. Here's the jobs karma that was requested. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

Starting point is 03:15:20 And you can go to noagenthodonations.com. Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers for 1464. Our formula is this. I mean 1640, 1660. 1640, 1660. We'll hit people in the mouth. 1646. It's a lot of episodes, people.

Starting point is 03:15:37 Water. Water. Shut up, Swain. Shut up, Swain. It's your birthday, birthday. I'll know what you do. Ah, yes, we've got some birthdays to talk about. A nice list today.

Starting point is 03:15:55 Hakon Kunle-Andresen wishes his niece Tilda a very happy birthday. She turned one year old on March 24th. Cole McCormick turned 27 on the 25th. David Wicker says happy birthday to Hope. She is turning seven today. We have Ivan Fergus turning 58 today. And it is Jackson Smith's birthday. And Jackson is turning five today.

Starting point is 03:16:20 And he is looking forward to the No Agenda ABC book, which I think is coming in May. So stay tuned. Fergus 33 celebrates today. J.P. Smith wishes his son Jackson Wyatt Smith. Oh, I just did that. And Leora wishes her smoking hot husband Gus a happy birthday. He turns 48 on March 29th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

Starting point is 03:16:54 And we just read the note from Spartanburg and Spartanburg becomes a Baron today and he can figure out his own protectorate and that of course will be part of the No Agenda Peerage. Congratulations Baron Spartanburg. Thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda then we have uh one night uh to do today so there's our one night blade at least we have a night here you go that's good okay hop up on the stage there brandon jansen thank you very much brandon for supporting the best podcast in the universe in

Starting point is 03:17:20 the amount of one thousand dollars or more we're, very happy to have you here. And to pronounce the KD as Dr. Sir Rev Joseph James the 33rd. Ah, Knight of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. For you, sir, we have by your request, Blanton's Single Baron Bourbon. Hookers and Blow, of course.

Starting point is 03:17:40 Rent Boys and Chardonnay, if you're into that. Diet Soda and Video Games. Fish Pie and Fallatio. We have Beer and Blunts, Rubinette, Swimming in Rosé, Gaysen and Sake, Vodka, Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escort, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pavlo Men, of course, the Mutton and the Meat. And you can go over to noagendarings.com, check out these ones.

Starting point is 03:17:59 You know, someone was looking at these Cignet rings and sent off a note, and I had to send it to Jay. He says, I looked at the Latin on the ring. It's in, now, it's a signet ring, so it's in mirrored. And he had the Latin. He said, that means something about little girls. I'm like, what? And so I put his.

Starting point is 03:18:20 Little girl, yay. Yeah, literally like little girl, yay, or happy little girl. I put that into the translator. Yeah, I said, but this is not right. I'm confused. He had not mirrored the mirror. Of course, it says hit them in the mouth, but it's kind of cool that if you don't mirror the Latin,

Starting point is 03:18:37 it looks like it says little girl, yay. That's a liberal translation. It may have been done on purpose by Couture. He's had that kind of sense of humor. He's that kind of guy. Anyway, you, sir, Mr. I should say Dr. Sir Rev. Joseph James the 33rd.

Starting point is 03:18:54 You'll get one of those. Go to noagendarings.com and give us your address. There's a little sizing guide there. Send that and your size to us as well. And it comes with wax to seal your important correspondence along with a certificate of authenticity welcome to the roundtable and thank you for supporting no agenda people getting a lot of value today go on long alert the affiliates we have a couple of meetups to promote but but we first have a report from Wageningen,

Starting point is 03:19:28 the Wageningen Eat Up report. That's in the Netherlands. This is Andre, live from the No Agenda Eat Up. No Agenda Eat Up. In Wageningen. So yeah, from the heart of the Frankenfood Valley. In Wageningen. This is Petter, and I just want to remind you to stay humble,

Starting point is 03:19:43 stack stats, and start with the beast. Hey, this is Osmoos. This is better, and I just want to remind you to stay humble, stack sacks, and start with the beast. Hey, this is Osmose. This is Roland, and connection is protection. I can't do it in a band. Sir, who's cadaver? Stay safe. Hi, Natalia here, and I'm dying because I have a lot of hot flashes. She's looking for a boyfriend. Hi, this is Ingrid, and Adam.

Starting point is 03:20:03 Why do you think we roll all the the time or high or hammered we're just in the morning damien the wood wall lover of dirty jokes we're a bit low on dirty jokes here these mofos just arranged my marriage. Thanks for the wonderful meetup tonight. It's really nice here. I'm the waiter at the restaurant. We gotta hit them in the mouth. Best scene ever!

Starting point is 03:20:46 All right. By the way, I'm planning a trip. I'm going to do a solo trip to the Netherlands, see my daughter, I think maybe the beginning of June. So we need to plan a meet-up. I want to go to one of these meet-ups. These people are having too much fun. I love it. Meet-ups happening today. North Georgia monthly meet-up at 6 o'clock at the Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.

Starting point is 03:21:08 Saturday, the Ventura County, California most peaceful meetup. Noon o'clock at noon. Institution Ale Company in Carmelo, California. And also on Saturday, the Osaka Castle Cherry Blossom. Camarillo? Camarillo, yes. Thank you. The Osaka Castle Cherry Blossom.

Starting point is 03:21:22 Camarillo? Camarillo, yes. Thank you. Back to Saturday. The Osaka Castle Cherry Blossom viewing and amygdala shrinkage meetup, 1.33 p.m. in Osaka Castle Park, Osaka, Japan. I know we have a lot of nights in Osaka. So I'm looking forward to a wonderful meetup report. This is Sir Bill of Osaka.

Starting point is 03:21:45 I've met him several times. Of course, I've also met him in Tokyo. So looking forward to your meetup report. And then finally, the biggest little meetup, 233 at Big Horn Tavern in Reno, Nevada. That'll be on Saturday as well. On the horizon for April, Raleigh, North Carolina, Mount Holly, North Carolina, Colorado Springs, Myrtle Beach, Tulsa, Anna, Texas, Dayton, Ohio, London, UK, London, we can do better than the last time, Canton, Georgia, Chamblee, Georgia, Keyport, New Jersey, Indianapolis, Indiana, Richmond, Virginia, Aurora, Illinois, San Diego, Leiden, the Netherlands, and Richmond, Virginia. Again, these are the No Agenda Meetups. This is where you really get, you heard the Meetup Report. That's what

Starting point is 03:22:26 most of them were like, only it sounds funny when you have Dutch accents. But all of these meetups are that enjoyable. People love them. You will love it. You cannot spell community without the unity, and connection is protection. Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com. If you can't

Starting point is 03:22:42 find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy and fun. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be. Drink it all, hell's a lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

Starting point is 03:23:07 And I'm going to make it easy on you. I have zero ISOs. I don't know what happened, but I wound up with none. Wow. So it's going to be one of yours. Well, I don't have anything good. I don't think maybe. Maybe.

Starting point is 03:23:18 Let's try. Let's start from the bottom here and go with yeesh. Yeesh. Okay. No. No. No. Okay okay then go to tragic it's tragic it's better than yeesh yeah it is and then we had somebody that submitted this one this is the uh uh the user the producer submitted one this is the good work tick tock good work there tick tock is the good work tick tock good work there tick tock hmm let me hear the tragic again it's tragic good work there tick tock

Starting point is 03:23:52 wow they're not you're right none of them are really fantastic which one do you like the most i like the tick tock one good work there okay now we'll use the good luck there, TikTok. That's good. Good news, good, good news. Good news, good, good news. Good news. That's right. We're about to send you off into your long weekend. We've got all kinds of wonderful things coming up, and we want to make sure that you leave here with a song in your heart

Starting point is 03:24:17 and a skip in your steps. So we bring you one good news clip that is guaranteed to bring a smile to your face. John, what do we have today? good news clip that is guaranteed to bring a smile to your face john what do we have today well today we have a woman who was in the hospital she had cancer she got over cancer and as she was so happy as she left the hospital and i by the way i have a short comment to make mimi has a short comment to make about this clip she supplied this one uh the guy she gets a proposal for marriage as she gets out of the hospital story to brighten your morning one woman celebrates completing her final round of chemo treatments and got a huge surprise this video that you're looking at is going viral

Starting point is 03:25:01 showing 27 year old angelica May walking out of the hospital after finally beating stage 2 breast cancer. Now, that's already going to be an unforgettable day for her, but it's what happened next that has people on social media buzzing. Watch. Congratulations, Auntie Joey.

Starting point is 03:25:20 I would like to know what you're doing. So I do want to say, like, I love you. And I want to know what you're like. Look, we married. Oh, my goodness. How sweet. That is so, so sweet. And of course, she said yes.

Starting point is 03:25:47 Hey, and if you would like to send us your good news story of the day, just email us your pictures and your videos to gooddaygoodnews at fox.com. That's right. Good day, good news at noagendashow.net. Exactly. And Mimi pointed out that what kind of a douchebag asked her to get married after she's cured of cancer? That's what Mimi would say. That's it for your good news. And it was good news.

Starting point is 03:26:21 I mean, yeah. I mean, I understand what she's saying, but... Don't throw any... Any hot coals on my good news. I mean, yeah. I mean, I understand what she's saying, but... Don't throw any... any hot coals on my good news. Shade. Don't throw shade. Shade on the good news. She got it.

Starting point is 03:26:33 Yeah. We've got good news coming up. Next on the stream, Grimerica. That's the boys from Scandinavia. Unveiling the unseen science of upside. Well, you know, you need to stay tuned for that one. You can do that at trollroom.io, noagentostream.com. Or in that modern podcast app you got at podcastapps.com.

Starting point is 03:26:58 End of show mixes from Professor Jay Jones, Stephen Jacobson, and Mr. Leo LePuke. They always delight, all three of those guys. Thank you very much for joining us for your bi-weekly or twice-week media deconstruction. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in Fredericksburg, home of the totality,

Starting point is 03:27:21 on April 8th. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday, Easter Sunday. So join us if you can. We're working. We're working, that's right. Remember us at knowageinthedonations.com,

Starting point is 03:27:39 dvorak.org, slash NA. Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and such. In Mississippi, six former law enforcement officers, Brett McAlpin, Jeffrey Middleton, Christian Dedman, Hunter Elwood, Daniel Oakdike, and Joshua Hartfield, each entered the Rankin County Courthouse, wrists shackled to their waists in jail suits. Those six officers pleaded guilty once again, this time to state charges.

Starting point is 03:28:05 Have received prison terms that add up to more than 130 years. They had no warrant when they went to arrest or to torture the guys in the house. It was simply because they were in a house with a white female. Mocking, beating, and torturing them for more than an hour. That included the use of stun guns and sexual assault with a sex toy. They used dild*s or Eddie and Michael. The former officers called themselves the Goon Squad because of their tendency to use excessive force and then cover it up.

Starting point is 03:28:38 Prosecutors today described the heinous acts that occurred during the raid on a Brexton home. The depravity of the crimes committed by these defendants cannot be overstated. He will whip out his private parts and attempt to put it in the mouth of a defendant. There's so much sickness here. Not only did they torture them, they were trying to plant drugs, they destroyed evidence. There's so much sickness here. Do you realize that people are still having sex? Poor man passed out while in handcuffs.

Starting point is 03:29:06 Perhaps they are perplexed. Grabbed his genitals. Holding hands, they're making future plans. Men dry hugged him. Do you understand? I don't think the sentences were, in fact, tough enough. I think these men should all spend the rest of their lives behind bars. That if you do the crime, you're going to do the time.

Starting point is 03:29:25 They use dild*s. This AIDS thing's not working. A spoon whale off the coast of Western Australia has used a secret, actually, a stinky weapon. The whale released its massive bowels, triggering a tsunami. Uh, stinky, but brutally effective, right? Yeah, yeah, still, um, processing everything. No, no, right? Yeah, yeah. Still processing everything. This was fake news.

Starting point is 03:29:54 We're childish. I mean, there's 15-year-olds in us. Fascinating that the, I guess, the blast of poop Yeah, definitely wasn't expecting to see that kind of thing. Poop-nami! Poop-nami. Two Poop-nami clips.

Starting point is 03:30:13 Right, so, I mean, this is obviously a cause of great excitement for people who study these. And I'm wondering whether it's just a frightening aspect of being tracked by these killers. And maybe that's why you poop. Just looking at the size of First Spoon Wiles, I'm guessing the bowels of Sid Spamwiles would be huge. Yes. Yeah. We're childish. I mean, there's 15-year-olds in us.

Starting point is 03:30:39 Poonami! Poonami! Oh, man. Poonami Poonami Fascinating idea It's a blast Thank you so much I'm not banning any more Poonami clips forever

Starting point is 03:30:55 NBC fake news Which is all up in arms About hiring Rana Ramni McDaniel The former RNC chair Michael Steele Who is also a former RNC chair, works at MSDNC, too. Shung, former Democrat campaign staffer whose wife is a Bernie Sanders campaign staffer. She is now a paid contributor. I have no idea whether any answer she gave to you was because she didn't want to mess up her contract.

Starting point is 03:31:24 Hire Rana. Hire Rana. Fire to mess up her contract. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna.

Starting point is 03:31:38 Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Fire Ronna. Now, hire Ronna Fire Ronna now Get her off the set Chairman of the NBC Universal News Group, Cesar Conde Sent a memo rescinding the hiring of Ronna Romney McDaniel

Starting point is 03:31:54 The best podcast in the universe Opo Dvorak.org slash N-A. Good work there, TikTok.

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